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Can we talk about why DS9 never had its own movie franchise? (lemmy.world)

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I’m watching S7E20 right now and the entire scene before the Defiant undocked from DS9 had that cinematic vibe you only get from a bonafide Hollywood movie.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

DS9 pulled off a political space drama that could rival Dallas or MASH and they got 7 seasons. I'm rewatching it again and I still can't believe that prime time viewers would sit through these episodes that are just 2 people arguing the nuances of humanity for 45 minutes. It's nothing like TV is today.

As far as a movie, I think the TNG movies weren't that Trek. They often took the characters in strange directions, favored more digestible plotlines, and wrote dialogue that you'd expect from AI. I value the television wellspring of Trek in the 90s/early 2000s. It is so cool, and that era is still bearing fruit today.

I would like to see more of the DS9 characters, and like to see what a movie budget would do, but I don't trust that a DS9 movie would've been given the reverence needed to make it right. It has been great to see Picard and the ST world in the later years, but I don't know if it makes the lore any better. I'm not sure that we are any closer to another golden decade of ST.

Thanks for posting this and helping me get some of my thoughts on DS9 coalesced. Do you have a DS9 movie plot you think would've worked? Those 'golden years' of Trek were also open to the most fan input, with concepts and entire scripts being submitted. If we had 26 episode seasons to play with, maybe they'd take our call.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah ds9 was not my cup of tea. It absolutely felt painful to watch 2 characters being locked in over dramatic conversation for an hour with commercials. I mean what else is there to do on a space station but wait around, not very exciting. Second why are the ferengi merchants? Doesn't everyone have access to a replicator.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Second why are the ferengi merchants? Doesn't everyone have access to a replicator.

Latnium can't be replicated so it can be properly used as a store of wealth and replicated antiquities can be detected. Large items like ships can be replicated in parts, but need to be complete to exceed the value of their replicated parts.

When a culture is built around trade, they will find ways to trade.

Also, it's likely that the writers needed that culture type to directly conflict with the ideals of Starfleet. Conflict makes for a good plot line.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And what can I buy with latnium? Couldn't I just hop into the holo deck and swim in my personal lake of it? As far as assembling a ship it's almost like I could replicate one small bot to build consecutively bigger assembly bots. It was just lazy writing for a bad premise of a star Trek, where is the trekking? More like Star Trek deep snooze nine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And what can I buy with latnium? Couldn't I just hop into the holo deck and swim in my personal lake of it?

If you're on Deep Space 9, you have to pay to use Quark's holodecks in the first place. They don't show it much, but they do mention in the first or second episode that Starfleet get a few slips of latinum as a per diem when stationed somewhere not part of the Federation. There has also been at least one occasion where Bashir mentions eating at the replimat instead of Quark's because he was saving up to buy something, implying that they all pay to eat at the bar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gambling is also big activity at Quark's, something that costs money, but can't be replicated. Also, real liquor, not Synthehol.

I get the feeling that replicated food is the equivalent of frozen dinners. Its edible, and for many people its good enough, but those with more discriminating palates occasionally want something real.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I also got the impression that replicator quality can vary. I think it was Birthright, from TNG, where they go to DS9, and Worf learns his father might be alive. One of the Enterprise crew, I don't remember who, makes a comment about the food at the Replimat tasting like polymer.