No heads will roll. What most stories miss is that the main reason they didn't use official channels for this (and most likely many of their other conversations as well) is that they don't want to comply with the Federal Records Act. They don't want there to be a record of a lot of the shit they're saying and doing and plan to do.
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Yeah, I know why the guy came clean, but it would have been so much more useful if we stayed on the chat. Really a big missed opportunity.
OTOH he did stay on it as long as he could while still being able to protect himself by saying he didn't think it could be real and most likely a scam or attempt to entrap, plus the thread was basically over by then anyway.
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The really sad thing is that in this scenario only Republicans matter. As long as they keep treating Trump as some kind of god-emperor, nothing will happen.
I was going to say "treating him as a king", but England and Canada have kings and would never put up with this kind of shit from a king. England hasn't put up with kings acting this way since the Magna Carta was signed.
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Any republican party member who stands up for this will be threatened with having their seat put up to a primary challenge. This is just a fact.
Remember, whatever the administration says can only be interpreted by fact by anyone who is part of the party. If you aren't in line you aren't in the party.
The undesirables will be shipped off to a camp far from the public's eye and shaven, beaten and humiliated.
Congress: Somebody should really do something to rein this administration in!
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~~"Non-secure systems" uh. No. Systems that aren't in the US control is what you mean.~~
As @[email protected] pointed out, Signal is insecure as in the access to the message wasn't controlled. It's like stripping naked in front of an open window with the lights on in your house. Yeah, technically, you are inside your home where it's private. But if you aren't pulling the shades everyone gonna see it
I'd absolutely qualify it as non-secure in this context. Signal is E2E encrypted but there are no systems in place where it understands who's added to a chat and validates access based on ACLs or anything. Authorization policies are critical in securing systems.
Man you're technically correct.
The best kind of correct. Let me alter my comment and direct them to this, because I didn't even think that far.
Isn't that important given the nature of what was being discussed?
Yes. Access control is not in scope of Signal, I updated my comment to correct my statement.
I would however enjoy being a fly on the wall when someone has to explain what application or system scope is to Trump.
"SIPRnet? What's that?"
Good ad for Signal at least?
Pro: People learn about Signal Con: People learn about Signal in the context of a leak
Trump is probably all confused because he thought it was end to end encrypted and now he can't understand how the guy got the messages.
He pulled the ol CC/BCC mistake.
So we are more worried about the privacy communications instead of how we are bombing Yemen. Great. Fantastic.
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Guy sold have kept quiet and just relayed everything straight to Yemen.
Oh, so they're upset now? What about, you know, when Trump stole a shit-ton of top secret documents that he very probably attempted to sell and at the very least definitely stored improperly and used a lot of lying and juggling to keep hold of? After he attempted to overthrow the government on Jan 6th. If they had moved faster, we wouldn't even be having this whine-fest, because he wouldn't have gotten re-elected from prison.
If this is the thing that makes people realize Trump and his cronies are fucking idiots, despite all the other evidence we already have, I'll take it.
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I read the Axios piece and skimmed the Atlantic original. This is some next level incompetence from this administration. It's bad enough that I actually hope that it's intentional as some kind of dick wagging move.
Sure. Outraged over an inadvertent leak, but totally fine arming a country committing genocide, trying to strong-arm the victim of relentless aggression into giving up 1/5th of it's territory, letting disease spread freely in the nation, detaining people without charges, kidnapping people off the streets and deporting then to violent foreign prisoners without due process, weakening our defense industry, alienating every ally and partner we have on the planet, threatening to annex countries, starting trade wars, taking away women's healthcare, threatening the most vulnerable members of society, etc etc etc. All that other stuff is fine, but sure, let's raise holy hell over an inadvertent leak.
From alcoholics, to heroin addicts, to ketamine fueled Nazis, the Trump administration is running like a well oiled crack addict machine.
That tracks with the Third Reich, actually
Heh. Same happened in Sweden some time back, but on a less serious issue, where a journalist was invited to a emergency meeting for the Liberal party over Signal.
As a Democratic Leader I think we should EXCUSE this Leaking of Top Secret War Information and INSTEAD Focus on HER EMAILS to win BACK Democratic Voters!