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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit, what a moron. Biden should really send a thank you card for that nice little gift.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 9 months ago (62 children)

The irony of literally anyone (eligible) not voting for Biden specifically because of his handling of the Gaza situation, and thereby doing their part to help Donald "Gotta Finish the Problem" Trump win, makes my bones hurt. I hate this timeline and I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (4 children)

But sure, yeah... go ahead and just not vote. Letting Trump in will be so much better for the Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (13 children)

A week ago, the difference between the two would have been that Trump would enable Israel in every way, while Biden would enable Israel in every way, but staffers would leak stories about how much Biden didn't like Netanyahu from time to time. Now, Biden has started sending aid to Gaza while Harris is calling for a ceasefire, and this is entirely because 100K voters in Michigan voted uncommitted. When done properly, threatening to withhold your vote can be an effective way to make your voice heard.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think you make a great point, but I would add a caveat. There IS a difference between Biden and trump. One will listen to protesters, and the other won't. You can pressure Biden and he will change his position because he seems to care what voters think, and Trump doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I agree with that. And, to be clear, I think there have always been tons of differences between Biden and Trump on almost every issue besides Israel/Gaza. I was just saying that, on this single issue, the difference between Biden and Trump would have been mostly rhetoric, not policy, up until the Michigan primary voters convinced Biden to change. I definitely didn't mean to imply they were generally the same.

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