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Sec. 2. Closing the Department of Education and Returning Authority to the States. (a) The Secretary of Education shall, to the maximum extent appropriate and permitted by law, take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education and return authority over education to the States and local communities while ensuring the effective and uninterrupted delivery of services, programs, and benefits on which Americans rely.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 hour ago

The Department of Education currently manages a student loan debt portfolio of more than $1.6 trillion.  This means the Federal student aid program is roughly the size of one of the Nation’s largest banks, Wells Fargo.  But although Wells Fargo has more than 200,000 employees, the Department of Education has fewer than 1,500 in its Office of Federal Student Aid.  The Department of Education is not a bank, and it must return bank functions to an entity equipped to serve America’s students.

Move student loans to private banks! There it is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

The fun thing is that authority over education is already in the hands of the states. And I bet that ED is already understaffed, so they probably can't ensure the things in the last line if they fire people. All that makes the order effectively already met.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

good, now we can finally indebt 8 year olds too not just college students. they had it too good for too long

--trump, probably

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I'm sorry anyone in a red state. You and your children will never learn a goddamn thing of worth again. Fuck this country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

Good news! They already weren't. Red state public schools have been indoctrination camps for about a decade now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

My mom is a school counselor at a tiny school in a tiny town in Montana. There is no way the school stays open. Or 90% of our public schools for that matter. Part of me wants to tell her "I told you so" but generally it just sucks so bad I don't have the energy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

I'm so grateful my daughter hated Indiana her entire life and fled to Illinois immediately after undergrad. Two of my grandchildren are there with her, and I have one here. I'll be ensuring his parents read to him because I know I will. And I'll campaign to his other grandparents and aunts. I refuse to let that boy get fucked over because this country is full of stupid misogynistic, racists cunts.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The US is rapidly becoming the world's largest third-world country.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Depending on where you go they long have been. As a Canadian the difference between our countries is jarring as soon as you step off the beaten path.

Edit - I wanted to elaborate for those not in the know. I grew up lower middle class in Canada and have been to many smaller areas in America over the years. The poor in Canada still have education and healthcare covered by the state. Poor people are easily distinguishable but at the same time they are very much the same as everyone else.

In Canada, you take the wrong turn and you're going to be met by a friendly stranger who will help you and point you in the right direction. In America, you take the wrong turn and you're Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

The true stereotype isn't that Canadians are overly nice. The true stereotype is that Americans are overly hateful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 49 minutes ago

Canada is what America could be if it valued the health and well being of its citizens. Not that we are doing much better but if America is at a 1 and Denmark is at a 10, Canada is at least in the 6-7 range

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Fun fact. The United States is and always will be 1st world by definition. The 'Three Worlds ' model comes down to the cold war where a country is aligned with the United States, the Soviet Union, or neutral. Switzerland is a 3rd world country. What people generally call the third world is better describe as 'global south', and they either ignore 1st and 2nd world completely or neglect the 2nd world completely and call themselves the 1st world. With regard to the United States I think you mean it's becoming the biggest fucking piece of shit country, or you might mean it is no longer aligned with itself, plans to leave NATO, is not aligned with the soviet union, and is then by definition the largest 3rd world country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Huh. I always thought it was 1st, democracy, 2nd communism, 3rd all else. I'll be damned it literally was just "hey these guys don't like us, and these guys really don't like us and they also hate the soviets."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

I mean... You have the assumption that definitions do not change.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Is america already great again?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Make america Gregg again — the dyslexic

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

USA is becoming a dictatorship in 10... 9... 8... 7...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, we're at 2.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

kinda late on that countdown mate.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

The Department of Education was established by Congress. Elimination of it will take an act of Congress. This man is the biggest puppet ever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think what we've seen is that Congress only has the powers that it uses. Sure, they could stop trump from nuking the DoE, but if they don't do shit, then it doesn't matter.

If you live in a state in the US, then you have a congress critter (multiple really) that represents you. Red, Blue, or independent, go to their town halls, go to their open forums, go to their offices, and tell them to do their fucking job. Whether that is officially closing the DoE, or preventing trump from doing it, they need to legislate it.

Edit:

https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member

You can look up your Senators and Rep here. Just called all 3 of my Congressmen and told them to do their jobs and legislate. I got through to my Rep's office (they're smaller and local) and left messages for both of my senators. All three are feckless republican shit-hawks, but at least I let them know they need to exercise the checks congress has, and that felt pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Montesquieu knew what was up. If Donald declares himself King and we don't meaningfully say no as a society, then he's a king. The constitution isn't going to rise up out of its case and shoot atomic fire at him, it's just an old piece of paper that only matters insofar as we believe in it. And, well, [gestures around] I'd say that ship has pretty well sailed.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think they'll follow any sort of law or rule? Legitimate question.

They can tell everyone they're fired, change the locks/codes. Shutdown emails etc. and there is literally nobody that will stop them.

Except us with weaponry.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

the 2th amendment existing was no accident.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

This is the biggest argument to show that all that big talks about 2nd amendment was nothing but bullshit all along. US is in the middle of fascist takeover, and what good their 3 guns per human brought them? Are there any consequences for fascist dismantling the very fabric of democracy?
Turns out the only thing all that abundance of guns is good for are school shootings and elevated crime rates, nothing else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I feel like you should leave saying that for another year or 2. It's understandable that people aren't quite yet ready to abandon legal means.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

When the time to abandon legal means comes, it's already too late.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

...you know most of the gun squad is on his side, yeah?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I was assured on a numerous occasions, that there are legions of armed Marxists walking around, waiting for the glorious revolution to start or whatever. I guess, it's not exactly true either, huh

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