Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.
This is not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.
For actually-good tech, you want our NotAwfulTech community
I clicked on all four links and saw no hateful content at all.
Something happened outside of those threads, death threats to a developer from the sounds of it. But I dont get the impression that the tech community is cheering on this or supporting it?
Is it that you can’t read, or won’t?
What part is hateful? I really looked.
If you want to find out whether Lemmy users are transphobic, ask them what Drone Rights did wrong.
What is Drone Rights? (Google weirdly insists on telling me about drone rights rather than Drone Rights)
A trans person who was mean to people who misgendered them.
Why is that the name?
you should’ve stayed in the other thread
screw them. ban all the ass hats!
So I'm not seeing much on the Lemmy posts, presumably the mods have cleared those up already?
I get why you're disappointed, but there has also been a lot of push back against the toxic and hateful behaviour which is a positive thing to see.
Its important to remember the toxic people are loud and obnoxious but they are a minority. The majority needs to keep pushing back against the hate and push the values we share in the linux community of equality, fairness and respect among many others.
Unfortunately though, aside from trying to make our communities safe and welcoming spaces there is limits to what people can achieve. No one in any community can stop bad actors harassing people outside the community on social media, or obtaining and sharing their personal information.
Linux communities are not the specific problem - we do not exist in isolation. Its society that is a mess and particularly now in the US where the political tide has turned so toxic and negative. These hateful people currently feel they have licence to be hate.
All we can do is push back against the hate everyday, and show our support and value community members like Lina. Its very sad they do not feel safe to continue working on the projects they worked so hard on. But they need to see and know how much we appreciated and valued their contributions and that they belong in this community. The hate filled bigots do not.
I did not know about this (though I am not surprised): many of those threads mention a particular fruit-based website or forum dedicated to doxxing, harassing, or marring the reputation of people they don't like. While I won't speculate as to the involvement of that site with this situation, it's just another shitty thing that exists that I now know about.l
I found the other day that the fruit site is once again going on semi reliable hosting and I nearly punched my computer as a result
absolutely fucked that it persists
The only toxic comments seem to be on Phoronix and everybody's talking about those. What do the lemmy links have to do with anything?
Yeah classic attention seeking behaviour. Just say you’re stopping work on it for personal reasons, or give details. The only reason to tease gossip like this is because you like the drama.
hey fucker I found one of those toxic posts you don’t seem to be able to see
I hate it so fucking much that a non-trivial number of FOSS communities have become hostile nazi bars in the last years (or maybe they always have been and I've just not noticed it before).
Why would anyone shit on Lina of all people? She's such a nice and wholesome person and her work is exceptional.
Fuck these asshats.
Also, from that one Lemmy thread:
What fascists are ruining OSS?
LOL! Lmao even. Just input Linux into the YT search bar and you have roughly a 50% chance of getting fascist content.
maybe they always have been and I've just not noticed it before
As someone that was a 'nerd' back in the day before Big Bang Theory made 'nerds' cool, I'm gonna say that they always have been and you just haven't noticed before.
The nerd / tech crowd have always been a bunch of miserable little sexists and dorks with a superiority complex. And half the time that little Timmy got stuffed into a locker or dunked into a toilet, he fucking deserved it. And to me, it's really no surprise that they're homophobic and transphobic too.
If Big Bang Theory was actually accurate, Howard and Raj would be prolific posters on incel forums that whine every time the girls come over and then later whine about being lonely, and Sheldon would be borderline nazi. Not sure about Leonard because even without changing anything about the show, he's still the only half decent one of the lot.
I don't see any comments when viewing the Lemmy links, am I missing something?
yeah, apparently you’re missing all of the comments
jesus fuck
it’s not particularly gonna help or even make me feel better, but I’m probably gonna reopen that first Lemmy thread a little later and just start banning these awful fuckers from our instance. nobody attacking Asahi has a god damn thing to say to any member of our community.
o7
Thank you for your service.
The phoronix screenshot is the only one that contains open trans hate, though (though there's some deleted comments on hackernews, but at least the moderation is working if that's what those comments were) ...
The phoronix screenshot is the only one that contains open trans hate, though
Pretty much proves that it is the „anime alter ego” of the guy. My god, the times we live in.
and if you think the orange site is at all safe for trans people, that tells me everything I need to know
What's "the orange site"?
I don't have any interest in seeking out people being shitty, so I don't want to hunt through the links to figure out which site you are referring to.
once upon a time a guy named paully sucked at lisp, but most people couldn’t tell so they figured he must be good at it
then he made a website that was an ugly orange color, and everyone assumed it was ugly on purpose even though every web site paully makes is ugly and barely functions under load
then paully implemented moderation structures on the orange site that both cloak and enable discrimination and bullying, and everyone figured that couldn’t be correct because the orange site said it had good moderation
and now paully’s godawful startup accelerator is run by openly fascist little freaks and all it does anymore is AI, but the orange site says it’s prestigious and not at all a multi-layered affinity grift
the moral of the story is fuck paul graham
Thanks! I don't think I've ever gone there from more than a headline and out, but given the type of people who would be into a "startup accelerator", seems to fit that it would be a bunch of shitty takes on... Just about everything.
HN is a site for temporarily embarrassed billionaires who desire nothing so much as the blessing of Paul Graham and Garry Tan, so there's a lot of competitive bootlicking
Hacker News, one of the sites this specific discussion community is about, per the sidebar
Got it, thanks!
I think it's mostly people talking about the Phoronix posts. The Lemmy stuff is fairly neutral and HN seems to be fairly solidly on the side of being horrified.
Wow, those phoronix forums have really turned pure fash, haven't they?
From one of the comments in the screenshot
Those comments are sickening, what is wrong with you people?
Almost no one else but the woke hunting crowd is here, as there's little moderation and everyone else left
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Why are people so fucking trash?
I don't even smoke or drink and I need a fucking bottle of whiskey and a cigarette.
I assume the second Lemmy link is suppose to go the .ml thread and not p.dev, as that comment section seems fine?
You linked a feddit.uk thread instead of a lemmy.ml thread.
