Do any European defence companies have SAMs competitive with the Patriot, or are they still a generation behind?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surface-to-air_missiles
German Iris-T Norways NASAM French Aster 30
You're comparing apples and oranges.
Of those I would say that only Aster 30 + SAMP/T is a viable Patriot alternative.
And I believe IRIS-T is superior to current US alternatives.
There is going to be so many Boxers..
"Unless their home countries sign defense pacts", which I kinda expect the UK and Turkey to sign.
Not happening with the UK until fishing rights and 18-30 youth mobility visas are on the table. It's nuts that things are this way, the EU needs the UK massively.
The EU has a short memory of who defends Europe. The UK trained Ukraine and provide NLAWs to stave off attack, while Germany gave helmets and Macron was playing mediator.
Dangit, if only we had some sort of defense agreements with the US... /s
Good stuff, reaming by buying foreign equipment is only kicking the can down the line.
Investing into defense industry that can build new weapons is far stronger then temporarily buying weapons.
Or worse, renting or “licensing” weapons.
UK: Damn Brexit...
Switzerland: Neutral neutrality neutral ...
Ukraine: We're still alive. At some extent...
USA: Tariffs! I'll covfefe all those idiots!!!
Putin: ?
Switzerland is targeted because of this:
states would not be able to spend the money on products “where there can be a control on the use or the destination of that weapon . . . It would be a real problem if equipment acquired by countries cannot be used because a third country would object,” one of the officials said.
Which is perfectly reasonable. Switzerland can sit on a throne of flawless ethics but it’s just pointless to source weapons from there.
Yep. (Of course it’s the far right in our country preaching about “neutrality” because they are in the pockets of imperialist russia).
Remember at the start of this war Germany could not send the artillery shells (and maybe tanks? Don't recall exactly) it wanted to Ukraine because they were being made in Switzerland.
This is the logical consequence of the Swiss neutrality position.
Gepard ammunition
Thanks!
It's even worse, it's FLAK ammo, not even something potentially used as offense like artillery.
Do not underestimate the effect of 1100 rpm of 35 mm shells vs infantry and lightly armored vehicles. The gun can be lowered to -10 Degrees and AFAIK the Gepards in Ukraine have been used in a ground combat role.
Put in: Nazis everywhere!