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I've been doing this for a while, but it's a problem I've never solved. Dunno if it's my crust recipe or something I need to do during construction.

The recipe is as follows:

  • 1c water, 120°F
  • 1 packet dry active yeast (2.25tsp)
  • 1Tbsp granulated sugar
  • 2Tbsp olive oil
  • 3.5C white flour
  • 1tsp salt
  1. Mix the yeast and sugar in the warm water, wait to bloom
  2. Add everything else and mix into dough.
  3. Knead, proof
  4. Roll out, transfer to pan
  5. Second proof (optional)
  6. Preheat oven to 425°F
  7. Construct pizza with favorite toppings
  8. Bake at 425°F for 15min or until cheese is sufficiently browned

Step 7 usually has jarred marinara, meats (except pepperoni), spices, and cheese, and all the veggies (and pepperoni) go on top.

Still, the very middle part of the pizza ends up a little doughy, just where the sauce meets the crust. The outside of the pizza is just fine, but the only thing I can think is that the sauce is adding too much water. Do I need to add a layer of oil before the sauce, or should I try to reduce the sauce before adding it? Should I reduce the temp and increase the time?

Thanks!

Edit: Everyone has had some great ideas. I'll have plenty to try!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"all the veggies" bring all the moisture. Cut back or precook the wet stuff. Go easy on the sauce.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I cook mine for 35min at 180°C like a fucking heathen

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

@Telorand Soggy crust is usually from the toppings. Try using less marinara. Also experiment with pre cooking veggies, especially mushrooms.

Your oven temp looks a little low. I bake at 550° convection for about 6:30. Finally, if you don’t have a pizza stone or (preferably) a steel, you might consider that. It really helps get the crust done better.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)
  • Dough should use x/2 water for x amount of flour, in weight. And no sugar. So for example 300 g flour, 150 g water, 3 g salt. You can feed the yeast some of the flour instead. But don't mix yeast and the salt.
  • Boil the sauce so it's as thick as possible. Should be very big, slow bursting bubbles.
  • Preheat oven as high as it can go. It will still be colder than a real pizza oven.
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

A stone or steel and higher temperature+less time will help immensely. Even a preheated cast iron pan would help. (Look at specific cast iron pizza instructions, I haven't made any)

I tend to do 500f for 6-7 minutes on a baking steel and even heavier toppings are good.

Also: what toppings? Uncooked mushrooms and pineapple are super wet, cooking them beforehand is important.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

This and I went through a couple till I got a decent one and thankfully didn’t cost much. King Arthur flour has a nice one at a decent price.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

100%. Get one OP, especially if you're going through the work of making your own dough

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hotter oven. I go with 500F on a steel. 5 minutes on Bake, then Broil until the top looks good.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Light olive oil on the crust before topping with sauce. Corn meal or corn meal/salt mixture under the crust to help absorb moisture trapped underneath. Perforated pans also help. I also cook at a higher temperature. 450 degrees Fahrenheit. Make sure to preheat. A brick oven or pizza stone will help with consistent heating.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Less sauce, and more heat. Dont cook it on a metal pan, get a stone or steel. Crank your oven up as high as it can go, and heat for 20-30m before putting the pizza in.

Also, marinara, especially the jarred kind, is not a sub for pizza sauce as there is way too much liquid. Get pizza sauce, or check seriouseats for their sauce recipe as a starter.

Edit: also, 120F is too hot for proofing yeast as it will kill it. 80-100F is more ideal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

You could experiment. First try less sauce. Then maybe try making a different sauce. Lastly try a different dough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Instead of jar sauce, do 1 can tomato paste, 1 can tomato sauce or crushed tomato, 1tbsp Italian seasoning, 1tbsp garlic powder, salt and crushed red pepper to taste. Mix it all together before you make the dough and it should be pretty flavourful by the time you're ready to cook. It's easier than reducing the jar, and gives you more personalized flavor.

If that doesn't reduce the water content enough, try adding just a touch more flour to the dough.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I am sure the serious foodies will downvote this comment but I precook the crust to prevent this. Roll out the dough and put it in the oven for 10 minutes at 350 then remove. Then just finish the pizza as you normally would.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It adds steps and what do foodies love more than a plethora of steps?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My immediate reaction would be to go for a thinner crust and to use a little less sauce. I definitely wouldn't oil before sauce, but reducing the sauce could help if it's a pretty thin sauce.

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