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Got quite confused by this ban
Edit: context https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/98196510-49ce-40ee-8db5-a8914f7ad0b1.webp
And the comment I responded to:
I don't know how to see who banned me, but I guess the mod thought that my response to the"normal woman" having a body type that is far more idealized than normal was racist since I said the body type probably was a minority among body types? English as second language so I might be in the wrong
It seems like a gross conversation all around. No sympathy for any of y'all.
Which part of discussing a digital model is gross, or do you oppose those that make fun of the "gamer incels" that think the render is fat?
Definitely clueless mod.
Not that I can't understand the confusion if you don't pay attention, but that's kinda the work part of being a modk taking a look past the initial reaction.
If my presbyopic, dyslexic ass can parse what you threat meant on the second pass, anyone can if they take the time
Odd that everyone associating "minority" here as racial minority and not the body type that op mentioned beforehand. Is this a US thing?
PTB.
Sometimes, people express themselves poorly. And sometimes they hit some association they weren't aware of. That's clearly your case here; you were calling ChatGPT "she" instead of "it", this screams "L2+" from a distance, and a quick glance at your profile shows you're from Sweden.
So why the bloody hell is the mod in question assuming racism, due to some association native English speakers in USA do???
In that situation, they should've clarified that the association is seen as racist by some people. And then watch closely how you answered it; if you said something "ops, I wasn't aware of that, my bad", you're probably not a racist.
(The association between minority groups in USA and "their women is masculine" was new for me too - I'm not from USA either. Thanks ratboy@hexbear for explaining it.)
It sounds like you're saying "the body type of a minority race" instead of "the body type that most people don't have".
I initially took your comment to mean "I bet she has the body of a black woman; baby got back".
Couldn't decide whether racist or misogynist.
There's no question that this whole situation is extremely misogynist.
"Her body type is minority" is a bit of a strange thing to say, like "minority" is a body type. From your explanation, you meant to say "Her body type is in the minority", so I guess it was a misunderstanding.
Is the word minority so attached to race that it's not used to talk about relative sizes in groups without clarification (if you understand what I mean)?
In that case I will not use it like that in the future, thank you for explaining, and try to be more clear about what I mean
Edit: clearing up and expanding on sentences
The term "minority" is a politicised word in the US, where the term "minority" is essentially liberal media-speak for "everybody who isn't white and/or cis."
I guess you could also say something like, "her body type is atypical" to avoid confusion. From your other comments here it's pretty clear that's what you meant. And I agree with you that video game representations of women in particular are often problematic, as they are mostly unrealistic, highly sexualised, and created that way for the primary purpose of being objectified by men.
In this case I think CLM is the closest assessment, because I think it's obvious to a native English speaker that it could be interpreted both ways, so it should have been clarified before mod action was taken.
Is the word minority so attached to race that it's not used to talk about relative sizes in groups without clarification (if you understand what I mean)?
Yes, but it's contextual. If someone is a minority, it's usually referring to being a part of a minority class, often one that's either protected or used by bigots as a point of hatred.
Being in the minority, however, can refer to having relative uniqueness.
English is hard. I'm sorry it has such stupid rules, but here we are.
Yeah, I'm happy that there are so many in this post that helps me grasp why the post got misinterpreted and helpful tips on how to avoid (some) pitfalls in the future :)
