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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I game only on the PC and favor buying games from GOG over Steam, partly since one of the former's core selling points is no-DRM (also you can directly download the games with no need for using GOG Galaxy and play offline for ever and ever), so I'll just check the user reviews before buying and if there is some kind of mandatory account creation somebody will have complained and I will simply not buy that game (tends to be a pretty aware crowd on those subjects over there).

I'm reading here of people buying it and then not playing the game because of this and thinking: people doing that makes the decision to add this kind of thing a can't-lose for the game makers - either way they get paid for the game and the with most people they do some extra money by selli gbtheir private information whilst for other the don't but they still got a game sale, same as if they had not added this crap.

Best to check a few user reviews before buying and denying them a purchase if they've added such crap to the game, IMHO, as that changes the ROI equation and can make it a net negative to have this in a game.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

literally every app on windows/macos

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I use simplelogin and all my accounts belong to a John Doe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This isn't really that much of an issue... As others have said, if you don't want to give your details just use fake info.

People sometimes seem to give up if they hit any resistance at all to their actions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather just refund it, fuck rewarding a dev team that resorts to this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I honestly don't get it. It's such an extremist view for something that's insignificant.

You paid for a game you're excited for, and then because you have to sign up for 30 seconds you'd rather get upset, and then spend a longer amount of time refunding the game?

Maybe people here are being hyperbolic but I honestly can't see people refunding the game because of this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you keep rewarding the bad behavior of others, you have only yourself to blame if they continue to behave badly.

I shouted, literally shouted at my friends for buying the Oblivion Horse Armor and WARNED them the world they were creating, and I was fucking right on every fuckdamn point.

But they laughed at me then, and you laugh at me now, and the world gets shittier and shittier every day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Games are better than they've ever been, including the ones that force you to make accounts.

Micro transactions have largely gone down the cosmetic route or season pass route, both of which I'm fine with.

I honestly don't see the issue. If anything, games are better now because they can make more money from whales and discount the game for others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Thats a steam refund

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

One time my buddy was tripping super hard and he went to play a new game, stared at the TOS for like 5-10 mins then hit "do not accept" and backed out to the home screen.

I'll never forget that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have purchased games, have it ask for me to create an account, and promptly never play the game. What's annoying is a lot of sports games are like this now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I bought NBA 2k since I hadn't played a basketball game since NBA Live 2001. It took like 15 minutes to get a account set up. A few days later my account was gone. Haven't played since.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've never experienced this, ever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Have you not bought a game since the early 80s?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

That's a bit too far back. Just a bit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Pretty sure they mean that they have never been made to not want to play a game just because you had to register an account, not that they've never needed to register an account.

If logging in to something causes that much ire, I have to wonder if the people who think that way know how to make a throwaway email and use fake names. Because it's one of the most ridiculous reasons to not use something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, I mean I've never been forced to register an account before being able to play, except with Rockstar PC games. Ubisoft games have asked, but it hasn't been required.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ubisoft games have asked, but it hasn't been required.

What games? All the Ubisoft games I have on Steam require me to use Uplay, which requires a login. The same way GTAV uses the Rockstar launcher.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Eh I don't like accounts and I don't want to waste my time jumping through hoops to play. It's a matter of principle, and once you're turned off you may as well just get dressed and go!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Automatic refund for me. The one exception is far cry games make you sign into ubisoft. But i love far cry too much to skip them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I've got to ask, what makes you still play Far Cry? I played 2, 3, and 4, but 4 was an exact copy of 3 (with slightly changed graphics). 5 was clearly also the exact same, and every one since 3 has been. It's not a bad concept of a game, but following a formula doesn't make an interesting experience. I've already played it.

My biggest issue though is this formula was successful enough that every game they make started following it. They made Watchdogs, which was a cool idea of a game, but it was literally just the same thing but in a city. Assassin's Creed more recently slightly shifted away with Origins, but not enough and personally I still think they're bland games.

For me, I'll take an indie that is trying to do something new and interesting than anything Ubisoft, or generally AAA, is doing where there's no passion and they're just trying to use a formula to maximize profit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

4 took place in a completely different sort of environment, with a whole different story, with an online co-op mode for the entire story that 3 didn't have. There are also smaller mechanical differences, but I mean Ubisoft does run formulaic franchises, so maybe it's not enough of a difference to please somebody who's just not as interested in the open world FPS setup from the ground up, but saying it was "an exact copy of 3 with slightly changed graphics" is such a biased and reductive take that it gives the impression that you've already made up your mind before you asked the question and that nuance isn't something you're looking for.

I suppose the answer is, that premise is interesting enough to some that they didn't require as much of a drastic change to still play more, it's more core to what they might enjoy, whereas Far Cry for you is more tertiarily enjoyable and you'd need more differences between them (such as from 2 to 3) to try a new installment, compared to a core fan that likes whats already there and wants minor improvements and tweaks to the formula to freshen up the experience they already fundementally enjoy and want more of. To that fan a drastic change in setting and scenery with some mechanical changes to increase immersion and mix it up would be enough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Maybe because it's a stable, predictable experience. People do appreciate it too. I've seen players with thousands of hours in Skyrim and I myself liked some games to sink 800-1000 hours even in non-competitive non-MMOs. FC is a FIFA of actions and it seems they are yet to kill it, so they have a returning playerbase who just like that genre of sandboxy shooters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I like the guns and the action style of the games. Plus 6 had Giancarlo Esposito as the bad guy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Temp email+fake PII is my go to when this happens. I really appreciated Larian letting me skip straight to the game with BG3. Stuff like this should always be optional.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I wasn’t even happy with Larian, their data collection is on by default.

The whole account and telemetry is completely unnecessary.

I just want a game. No accounts. No external features. No DLC. No microtransactions. No telemetry collection.

Just a game. It doesn’t seem like much to ask.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

It SHOULD be optional but corporate greed wants your data. Just Cause 3 is still sitting unplayed on my Steam account for this exact reason and I fucking loved Just Cause 1 and 2

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Bane of my existence. These game companies lock in and I bet my left pinky toe cuticle they sell our data too -_-

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Just don't enter any real info, and use a spam email address.

What are they going to do? Check?

Loads of companies think I'm from Zimbabwe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd wager selling your data as an additional income stream is one of the primary reasons some studios do it in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is why a lot of sites demand an account log in if the user disables cookies (or at least they did for a while). They need those cookies to link the activity to a user, and since they can't do that secretly anymore, they just force the issue with a user account the user "chooses" to make.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I've seen sites straight up need money to deny cookies, yeah no im just leaving your site whatevers on there isn't worth