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Is Canada joining the EU? Brussels hails ‘like-minded partners’ amid trade war with US
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Australia and new zeland also I want to see trump cry
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Trump could actually be pushing the world into a united Earth. Just have to wait till he dies, then we join with a real leader. Then Star Trek baby!
A United Earth? Or an Orwellian tristate world?
As a Canadian, I support the idea of trade agreements with the EU, especially ones that could benefit our Indigenous communities. I support allyship with the EU. But I don’t want to be a part of the EU. We can’t ditch Mexico.
EU/Canadian dual citizen here: full membership doesn't make sense. Deeper integration to the point of having a customs union would probably be quite reasonable. I'm not sure about free movement of people however because the two parties have different attitudes to immigration. Canada cherishes immigration and cultural diversity, and considers it to be a defining national characteristic. Multiculturalism is quite literally baked in our constitution. European attitudes on the other hand, let's just say, I don't miss them. Beyond that, I don't think Canada needs the Euro (and the stability pact straightjacket) any more than it needs the USD.
Europe doesn't even want to ratify CETA and Canada would have to ditch USMCA to join the customs union. Makes no economic sense, never gonna happen.
I enjoy the "Canada can into EU?" memes, they're fun. It's also really nice that in this period of insanity we can help each other.
That said, yeah. A trade agreement that drops basically all friction, bilateral visa agreements that make travel and business easier & cooperation on military purchases would be the ideal scenario. There's a ton of things the EU and Canada can help each other with without Canada becoming a member.
@Barbarian would be great if EU finds a „second class“ membership where we only have a good travel and economy system with other countries but not a full membership. But when we look at UK, who left the EU, and how we struggle to find the way back to each other it‘s quite hard to imagine something like that at the moment. 😫
The EU has multiple "second class" membership options. Multiple non-EU countries are in Schengen, even more have no visa requirements.
Multiple countries have trade deals with the EU, including Canada (as soon as CETA gets fully completed).
@Barbarian ah yeah sorry, it was too early and no coffee was there to whisper "think again" 😀another "second class" is also the candidate status.
I would fully welcome the Canadians and Canadiens into the EU. It means St. Pierre and Miquelon would not have a border anymore. Win win!!!
Yes and Australia too
Nah, Eurovision is enough. We are happy to be everyones mates and have access to their markets. Our focus is Asian markets and it hurts our interests enough that some in the region view us as a remnant of European colonialism without us leaning into that. We aren't colonial and we aren't European. We need to find our own identity. Unlike Canada we aren't heavily dependent on exports to the US and desperate to find a replacement. Our equivalent would be a trade war with China and we have already proved we can cope with that.
I am more concerned about the US alliance. If they can shit on Ukraine and by extension Europe all our strategic planning and defence investments are worthless overnight as we can't rely on parts, or support let alone US forces showing up.
No I meant we should join Australia too
Canada is basically USA-lite (sorry). We play cricket with NZ, India, West Indies, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, South Africa and the Poms while you are playing seppo sports. You want to be part of the Commonwealth when things are tough but the rest of the time you are up the USA hard. So you are kind of Commonwealth-lite as well. We might be friendly and our countries sort of weird mirror images but pragmatically we don't have much in the way of common interests or uses to each other. Neither has a navy able to bust a blockade from the US or China so we are useless to each other militarily. Most of your exports go to North America and most of ours go to Asia. Apart from off season skiing there isn't a lot there.
Meanwhile there is a certain group of people who are anglophile, white supremacist, monarchist, regressives who want the British empire back and we have them in Australia as well. They plotted coups against the government in the 1930s but they are back again today, emboldened by Trumpism and social media. I am suspicious as hell about CANZUK types. Fascists are the problem, not the solution. If people want a union based on those values, Trump is offering it all.
Look, we have geese. You have wallabys. I propose we share
We European would be happy to have you in, but unlike the US, we are not forcing someone to join. If Australia does not want to join, happy to have them in Eurovision only
Not sure if that could work. It's also a question about culture and values.
And sorry to say this dear Canadians: You are at least partly americanized.
No we’re not. What a horrible thing to say.
You can't live 150 years next to the USA and not be influenced by them. That's impossible.
America is basically just a Europe expansion pack.
Please elaborate
Big cars, checkerboard cities, guns, house design, ...
Holy fuck, yes!!
Canada, come join us!
And Greenland should get to be a sovereign state as part of the EU as well - if they want to
That would be just fucking awesome all around! :-D
Well, Greenland was an EU member, but they left. Can't remember when, but it was before brexit, so the UK wasn't the only, or even the first, to leave. Possibly the last though, as the appetite for leaving seems to have dropped significantly.
I will never forget a conversation I had with some random Brit on Facebook before Brexit. He said to me, "You yanks don't know what it's like having your laws made for you by politicians you didn't vote for 500 miles away." In this hemisphere we call that Washington, D.C.
I mean, he had a point. What does a citizen of the American south know about secession, anyway?
Huh, my first thought was about the War of Independence.
When the UK voted to leave the EU, how many members were they allowed to send to the EU council and the Parliament of Europe?
When the thirteen colonies declared independence from the British Empire, how many members were they allowed to send to the British House of Commons and House of Lords?
The UK was not in the position where they were outright denied representation in a government that exerted power over them; that...what would the appropriate British word be? Burk? Pillock? ...on Facebook I was talking to was bitching about not getting to vote against that guy from Greece or Germany in the same way I don't get to vote against that guy from Kentucky or Texas.
My home state and about a dozen others DID secede from the union while having fair and legal representation in Washington once...look how that turned out.
As the current world situation looks very different, I think the EU is a much more attractive option - at least I hope so
I think full membership is very unlikely, but maybe Canada can join the EU Customs Union or even the Schengen Area at some point in the future.
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