People are always complaining about how AI art is putting real artists out of business, so I would have thought that the same thing applied here (hopefully resulting resulting in less exploitation). Really sad to see that's not the case.
this post was submitted on 03 Mar 2024
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Don't we just send people caught with such materials to jail then? Regardless of if it was AI generated or not. If it is made to look like them then clearly shouldn't be in your possession without their consent.
This will not be popular, but I welcome this. Once we normalize AI video porn, then videos are no longer trusted like we don't trust photoshopped images.
Even if the video is real, anyone can just claim it's AI. Nobody will even need to create their own home videos anymore because the kink is sorta gone now since anyone can claim it's fake.
I used to agree with this, but hearing interviews with actual victims changed my mind. This only works in theory.
There will be growing pains. The longer it takes to get it normalized the linger people suffer.
Forbidden computer bobs and vagenes
I called this an unpopular opinion before, but maybe it's just an uncomfortable one
This isn't going away. It's in the wild, there's no putting it back in the bottle. Maybe, let's take this chance to stop devaluing women because their nudes exist. Men can post nudes with zero consequences - what's the logic here? IDGAF if they're a teacher with an only fans, if everyone can be rendered nude, no one can be.
Let's live in a post nudes world. Next time a woman is about to get fired over nudes, let's say "it's probably ai generated, you're disgusting for suggesting such a thing". Let them do it behind closed doors, or we shame them relentlessly. Anyone sharing nudes without consent should be the target here, who cares if they're generated, shared with trusted partners, or shared publicly for their own reasons.
The person bringing them into an inappropriate setting are the ones doing something wrong. No one should be shamed or feel fear because their nudes are being passed around - they should only feel disgust.
Men can post nudes with zero consequences - what’s the logic here?
I'm not really sure if that'd be the case if I did that
Counterpoint, a congressman released a sex tape of himself with a prostitute.
I've never heard of a man getting fired because someone stumbled across his nudes - not saying it's never happened, but it doesn't happen much. I've heard of plenty of female teachers getting fired for it, but also female office workers.
It seems like there's this idea that being able to see a woman nude somehow discredits her and undermines her authority. The same idea doesn't exist for men
And I'm pretty confident that you could post nudes online, and even if someone found them, it wouldn't end up with you ending up in HR or having to justify yourself... Maybe you could have personal complications because of it, but probably not social ones
I think it's at least hyperbole. The consequences aren't the same, aren't even equivalent, but there are still negative consequences.
It's not exactly fault of AI. It's a human problem. People have been doing this for years now but AI does make it easier.
As much as I would like to blame ai. Photoshop has been doing this for a long time already. I think the public ai sites already do csam searching and stuff for this already but somebody could still run it locally.
And how many times have you made this comment, only to have it pointed out that there is a big fucking difference between a human manually creating fake images via Photoshop at human speed using human skills, versus automating the process so it can be done en masse at the push of a button?
Because that's a really big fucking difference.
Think: musket versus gatling gun. Yeah, they both shoot bullets, but that's about where the similarity ends.
Is the genie out of the bottle at this point? Probably.
But to claim this doesn't represent a massive shift because Photoshop? Sorry but that's at best naive, and it's starting to get exhausting seeing this "argument" trotted out repeatedly by AI apologists.
Yeah ai would let you make more kiddie porn at a faster rate, but you can't really regulate that. If somebody wanted to draw animated kiddie porn they could still do that. How far would you go until you ban crayons?
I digress, yes, I don't like that this shit is happening and there really isn't a way. Making kiddie porn is already illegal and there's no way to regulate these tools so we can just try our best to catch them.
Some people say this ai thing for porn could lead to less sexual abuse. It's so dark I'm kind of speechless but maybe it could even reduce actual people from getting physically hurt but I have no clue, time will tell.
If somebody wanted to draw animated kiddie porn they could still do that. How far would you go until you ban crayons
It's genuinely impressive how completely you missed my point.
How about another analogy: US federal law allows people to own individual firearms, but not grenades.
But they're both things that kill people, right? Why would they be treated differently?
Hint: it's about scale.
The same is true of pipe bombs. But anyone can make a pipe bomb. Genie is out of the bottle, right? So why are there laws regulating manufacture and ownership of them? Hmm...
I guess we kind of agree then. A.i is a pipe bomb for kiddie porn and the genie is out of the bottle. Not much we can do about it. We will still have laws but that won't stop anything. I already stated that the easy to access a.i services already prevent this from happening and there will be more regulation, though I don't see what more laws and regulations can bring to the table.
Usually for grade schoolers it's haha you're naked not haha you're a slut now.
Some day we'll develop better attitudes regarding nuditymand sexuality, but not today, and not in the US.
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