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Mozilla is already revising its new Firefox terms to clarify how it handles user data (www.theverge.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Overview:

Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

does this affect any fork of firefox? Like floorp?

[+] [email protected] -10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People hate whenever Brave is mentioned... But when it comes to privacy, I have not regretted my decision to use it

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I mean if you are already ok with using a Chrome reskin from a crypto ad company your standards are already set too low.

People who use Firefox are concerned that Firefox is slowly shifting into what Brave is now. Aka an ad company.

I swear to god Brave browser is a cult. People who are into it a really into pushing it. No, I don’t want your crypto-bro, ad company run, chrome reskin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But you have no problem with the paid-for-by-Google, ad company influenced, whittle away at the few protections they used to have, browser?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is literally better in every way.

This being said, better in every way does not mean good. It’s just hard to be worse than a crypto bro run, literal ad company, who’s browser is a reskin of chrome.

Hot off the presses, in addition to the CEO being queer-phobic, he literally is now ranting about how George Soros, and leftists are treating him unfairly.

https://lemmy.world/post/26379948

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Too late. That wasn't a typo, Terms are going downhill from here. I'm gone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

We saw it with reddit and that place is fucked now. Seems no one can be content with their status, they all need more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Anyone have a decent Android alternative? Updated my phone last night and this morning got a notification that Firefox had full permissions for accessing my location data. I'd like to move away from Firefox before enshitification is in full swing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I use Fennec

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Righto, pop that on the list. Thanks 👍

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did you give it to it?

It can be a pretty nice feature for using map-based apps in the browser.

I haven't used such websites for a while and I don't see Firefox in the recent users of the location API, even though I use Firefox Android all the time. (Info available in Android under Settings/Location.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely not. There's not a single app on my phone that I willingly give unrestricted access to my location data. At most I allow "while using the app" and have my phone set to ask for permission for background running.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I switched to waterfox. Looks pretty much the same, no issues so far.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Try out Ironfox. It can be installed through F-Droid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Dope, I'll give it a go 👍

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable

How hard is it to be specific? People are concerned about this, can they not tell us the exact data they share and with whom, or is doing so going to make people more concerned so they are avoiding telling us?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They can’t be specific in the legal note because that would close their options and prevent them from auctioning off every month to the new highest bidder.

They certainly could keep a page of what they’re currently selling to whom, but even if it was innocuous (doubtful) that would again put them in the news every time they changed it.

Tried and true ~~legal~~ PR strategy: say nothing and hope the attention goes away

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Already uninstalled everywhere. Better luck next time, Mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

they were effectively owning everything you fo in firefox, how is that nothing

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