A safe space to report and discuss the daily abuses of power that occur on the Lemmy.
Naughty List:
Repeated gatekeeping
lo-fuckin-l the hypocrisy.
Insanity. And then the one person who's a little less insane, gets bombarded by the insane asylum.
Hopefully this is your wake up call.
Deeply unserious
The Dragon saga is likely the dumbest fedi drama I've witnessed in the last two years I've been a resident here. If one major goal is fighting the stigma of mental illness within the community, this ain't it.
The... what?
There is a minority of the Trans community that can best be summarized by the observation that “calling everyone they/them as a rule” is unacceptable to this subsection. You must be utterly inclusive to everyone, without hesitation and unquestioningly - first it was someone demanding to be called a goddess, then someone insisting they identified as a dragon. To the uninformed outsider (me), they sound exactly like that one theater kid every school had, but it’s just as likely that they’re just a troll taking the piss out of the inclusivity of the community, which is almost funnier.
I think most people can agree if you don’t wanna be your birth assigned gender, sure! Go for it. But I’m not playing along with someone’s sexual fantasy, I’m just gonna use they/them. .blahaj admins feel differently, and that’s their prerogative - 196 already fractured from that subsection over this issue.
196 fractured due to the mods trying to force close the blahaj comm in favor of .world. Calling that because of drag is... An interesting take when even the mods themselves (who did all this in the shittiest of ways) said it wasn't the issue, and even referenced other shitty takes of theirs as examples.
They fractured in the first place because the mods had issues with the admin of the instance, so they decided to move to a different instance. It fractured further because the mods didn't say shit to the users, they just moved, which, rightfully, pissed a lot of people off.
I thought we already settled this on r/TumblrInAction… wait, what year is this, 2015?
I'm so sorry that happened to you.
I mean, I haven't posted in any of those comms in months. It's no big loss. But it also demonstrates that stopping my participation on those comms was the right choice to begin with, I think - the instance admins are at odds with what I regard to be basic facts ("Dragons aren't real", "Human beings are human beings").
Not enough that I'm trans-positive, NB-positive, and genderfluid-positive. One must be Dragon-positive.
Not enough that I’m trans-positive, NB-positive, and genderfluid-positive. One must be Dragon-positive.
It seems crazy to me how you can be casually labelled "transphobic" and instance banned for having a perfectly rational discussion about neopronouns on another instance, even though you have consistently not misgendered anyone, including Drag. I guess the "pre-crime" thought police are on the case. It's not enough that one follows their instance rules, no questioning or discussion of the rules will be tolerated either. Oh well, it's their loss.
It's important to consider that misgendering isn't the only kind of hurt trans people can experience online. Ada explicitly created LBZ to be a comfortable space for all trans people, and part of that includes addressing the agony that is logging in to see yours and other's validity questioned at every turn.
I agree, Pug is not a transphobe. I think Ada agrees with me too. That's why the modlog doesn't show "transphobe," it says "gatekeeping." I agree that the users calling Pug a transphobe are taking it too far. Pug is simply a bad ally that refuses to admit trans people might know how they want to be treated and the kind of space they want to exist in.
I guess I don't understand the correlation between being transgendered, and wanting to cosplay a totally different and fantastical species?
That's totally okay! You don't need to understand. :) The admins are simply asking users not to "take it to the streets," so to speak, as it can make the whole instance feel more uncomfortable and toxic. They encouraged us to report and block users who were causing issues, which we did, so those users are now banned. This way, we avoided creating unnecessary discourse and potential honeypots for bigotry, which is really the main idea here.
The admins are simply asking users not to “take it to the streets,” so to speak, as it can make the whole instance feel more uncomfortable and toxic.
Or anyone else's streets, apparently.
Preemptive bans are preemptive bans. Not the first time or server where this has happened, not the last. 👍
Gotta pre-empt someone who's already left. Very important.
Gotta defend your actions in the eyes of an admin you treat as despotic and whom you vowed to leave behind months ago. Very important. ;)
Gotta defend your actions in the eyes of an admin you treat as despotic and whom you vowed to leave behind months ago. Very important. ;)
Ada wasn't involved in the conversation at all before the bans. And I hadn't posted on Blahaj since 'months ago'. Which are amongst many reasons why this whole incident is weird.
"Not understanding" doesnt mean "dont respect them" though.
I don't get it either, but it costs me absolutely nothing to use a neopronoun or anything else.
If you dont understand, you could either try to understand, or just use someone's neopronouns and move on. Or not reply at all.
“Not understanding” doesnt mean “dont respect them” though.
I don’t get it either, but it costs me absolutely nothing to use a neopronoun or anything else.
If you dont understand, you could either try to understand, or just use someone’s neopronouns and move on. Or not reply at all.
Okay, but as I noted, I used Drag's pronouns. I don't remember ever using the wrong pronouns for Drag, though I'm sure a 'they' or the like slipped in in some deeply buried comment.
The issue becomes whether gender has any limits for what it means. I objected to both the fantastic and the species. For that reason, on another instance, in a discussion that did not involve Drag or Blahaj admins, I was banned from a bunch of comms that I hadn't even commented in in months.
That wasn't my question though. Why are they getting lumped together?
I agree, Pug is not a transphobe.
Yes, you just think I want to "do gender-based harassment" of trans folk.
What does transphobia mean, again?
The admin summon was one of the more bizarre parts.
Yeah I agree with you on that count too.
Sometimes I will very pettily ping someone I had a previous disagreement with, if something reminds me of them, or what we argued about. Is that weird?
Question, if someone pinged an admin to ban someone for being something dbzer0 doesn't want/like, would that be a step too far?
It would be bizarre on the part of the pinger, at the very least.
Fair