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First results in New York City Primary (hexbear.net)
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Voters in the largest city in America are choosing a Democratic nominee for mayor via ranked-choice voting. The crowded field is led by former governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned from the state’s top office four years ago following sexual harassment allegations; state Assemblymember Zohran Mamdani, who snagged key endorsements from Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-New York); Comptroller Brad Lander, who made headlines when he was arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement at an immigration hearing last week; and City Council Speaker Adrienne Adams.

This is a ranked-choice primary – only first-choice votes will be tabulated on election night. Final vote calculations will be released July 1 and updated weekly until all ballots are counted. Republican Curtis Sliwa is uncontested in his primary.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Cumtown vote was activated

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So now the "vote blue no matter who" crowd will vote red?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

"Authoritarianism is on the rise in NYC." —WaPo, next week (probably)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

im rooting for eric adams, hes gonna make all haters waiters at the table of success

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

sicko-yes This is going to make so many shitty people so mad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

party-blob

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

He won!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

A trash can for every worker!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wonder how this guy is going to turn out to be a disappointment.

I said it first so I get to be right a year from now! Write it down.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well he is a liberal zionist. I don't think it really matters, and I don't know if I would say anything different to him were I in his position (I don't think it would win a lot of votes to say "I would make use of the armed forces of the NYPD to assist Hamas with doing 1000 more Al Aqsa Floods"). Not to mention he will probably have to be fighting the state government on everything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well he is a liberal zionist.

Is he that bad? I do not think a liberal would be posting like this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No he just said he believes Israel has a right to exist as a nation with equal rights. A cop out answer (which is almost definitely the correct move when you're running for a position that has literally nothing to do with Israel)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, technically speaking that "with equal rights" part is essentially what the resistance demands. 'Israel' wouldn't be 'Israel' if it had equal rights. This could be a very cautious, borderline cowardly, way to express a sensible position.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It's pretty funny when you frame it this way because it shows that applying the same views that MLK had about Black people in the US to Palestine will prescribe you to support Hamas. You want equal rights? Get ready to put a grenade in a Merkava, buddy goku-halal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah I don't believe that's his real position he just wants to avoid being bogged down in that being the only topic he ever gets to talk about (it is anyway but you know). Every time I've seen him the media behaviour has reminded me so much of Corbyn it's uncanny.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I don't think it would win a lot of votes to say "I would make use of the armed forces of the NYPD to assist Hamas with doing 1000 more Al Aqsa Floods"

Sir, do you have any idea how BASED you were posting? columbo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Paris vaut bien une messe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He is? I interpreted his response in that debate as endorsing the one-state solution but maybe I was wrong?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a bit tomato tomahto. In theory, if Israel recognizes equal rights for Palestinians, then that's great and it would be a one state solution. In practice, that will never happen as long as "Israel" occupies Palestine. So if he was running for a position where his beliefs about Occupied Palestine actually mattered, I would want him to be pressed on how he thinks Israel should become a country where equal rights for Jews and Arabs are upheld, because that's the difference between liberal zionism and antizionism (liberal zionists would be happy to just wait for equal rights to materialize from nothing, antizionists believe in resistance and overthrowing the occupiers).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

. In practice, that will never happen as long as "Israel" occupies Palestine.

I think he already knows this and his position is to not do any "no nos" and to at most lie by omission rather than lie outright. Would he have won if he didn't play that game anyway? Tough to say at this point; perhaps it would have been closer but I think he actually would have but I don't think zohran thought he would have at the time

imagine if everyone in the west bank/gaza and the diapora could vote to elect seats into the knesset... it would never happen.... but we could just advocate for it anyway and use it as a shield to beat the zios back with and what can they say? this would never happen but if it actually did I could only assume the knesset would at some point vote to change the name of the state to palestine.<---- no liberal zionist actually desires to allow this to happen but zohrans position was to exist in this weird position of thought so he didn't have to sacrifice his views on the question of Palestinians while still being able to stay stuff like "israel has a right to exist with equal rights" .

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah I absolutely agree which is why I said it's only a technical difference, not to mention it simply doesn't matter as mayor of NYC. He's a good lad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can't shake the horrible feeling that once the lowest-ranked candidates are eliminated, we're going to see a centrist Voltron form around Cuomo like how the Democratic not-Bernie voters rallied around Biden in the 2020 primary.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

IIRC many people also put Mamdani as their second choice.

We are going to see the NYT’s official endorsement of Curtis Sliwa very soon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It could happen in the general, but in the primary the 3rd ranked candidate (Brad Lander) has cross-endorsed with Mamdani

edit: also Cuomo conceded the primary

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can somebody please explain to me how this works? Because I've read that the "final" vote isn't until November - so what the hell is this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is the Democratic primary race. It’s ranked-choice, final results for this vote will be out on July 1st, but Mamdani is expected to gain over Cuomo from 2nd-ranks if anything, and Cuomo already conceded the primary to him. This is considered the Big Thing because most NYC residents are dems and so the dem primary is basically the mayoral race. That might be different this year as the (widely disliked) incumbent and Cuomo will be running as independents in the general mayoral election in November, and we might see a centrist bloc coalesce, but I wouldn’t underestimate the power of the (D) appearing by Mamdani’s name.

Edit: the general in November is not ranked-choice, so the centrist/conservative vote will be split 3-way. I’d be very surprised if Mamdani lost

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it likely for the Republican candidate to just drop out?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don’t think the repubs would want to make a show out of helping Cuomo/Adams to defeat Mamdani. Especially when they’re trying to attack every democrat by tying them to him. As far as they’re concerned, every democrat is a socialist, and Mamdani only proves it. I’m sure the nyc bourgeoisie would prefer a united front against him but I think the democrat and republican parties both know it’d make them look bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I’m excitedly awaiting nyt or the atlantic or whoever to publish an article about how, if only there had been a united moderate front, Mamdani could have been stopped. Just imagine the title: “How Ranked Choice Voting propelled Mamdani’s success— and how it could have foiled his campaign.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, if I was a billionaire in New York, I know I would be pulling every string I could find to get Adams and the Republican candidate to drop out because this is an existential threat. The bourgeoisie showed that they were capable of doing that to stop Bernie in 2016 and 2020, why not now?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Bernie was a much larger threat, and it was internal to the Democratic Party. Stopping Mamdani here would require obvious inter-party collusion against him, which would hurt both national parties in the long run, over an admittedly large threat but not a Bernie-level one

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the Democratic primary, the general still has to happen. It was basically assumed that the Democratic nominee would win the general.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh my fucking god Americans do party politics for municipal elections too? visible-disgust Jesus. Clown ass country. Deeply unserious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We do party politics for school board elections.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

They do instant run off or whatever version its called. One ballot where you rank, then they tabulate based on your ranking - he's a lib but CGP grey had a good series on voting systems (the systems were all for an imaginary animal based monarchy lol). Instant in this case sure feels like a stretch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Socialism in One City

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Talking head on NY1 said that they were expecting going into the night that Mamdani would have the early lead from early voting but as same day votes came in his lead over Cuomo would shrink. Except it’s held steady. He said we’re in “would require a statistical anomaly” territory for Cuomo to come back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it stayed steady as the votes came in. Barring any crazy RCV surprises he is the dem nominee

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lets goo Zohran

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Thank you, Stalin

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It's at 85% reporting now and the numbers are pretty much the same.