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John Oliver cited a 5000% rise in search queries related to leaving Meta and deleting accounts. Among the topics mentioned in the analysis, attention was drawn to early Facebook's naivete with regard to moderation requirements, the constitutional framework, and a history of governmental interference.

Oliver debunks common right-wing "cry censorship" talking points, as well as the objective difficulty of moderation endeavors, and how direct threats by Trump may have influenced Zuckerberg's turnaround.

Oliver went on to suggest Signal, Mastodon, Bluesky, and Pixelfed as alternatives that "do not seem as desperate to fall in line with Trump". For those reluctant to completely ditch Meta, Oliver revealed a new site with step-by-step instructions to "make yourself less valuable to them".

The guide was a collaboration with the EFF, and includes settings' tweaks for Facebook and Meta, whose 98% of revenue comes from micro-targeting ads, the host previously cited, to increase privacy, and recommends Firefox, Privacy Badger, as "other measures" to take in order "to block advertisers and other third parties from tracking you".

The segment culminated in a mock advert, in which the new Meta's approach to moderation is coined as "Fuck it", and hints to racism, internet scams, and calls to genocide running rampant on Meta's platforms.

The clip reminds the origins of Facebook as a site to "rank college girls by hotness", and its implication in genocide in Myanmar, which was more thoroughly discussed in an Oliver's previous special on Facebook in 2018.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (25 children)

Why don't stories like this EVER mention Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Clean cut kids do not find Lemmy very palatable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The tankie bullshit is over blown PR smear.

Some how we manage coexist fine enough.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I’ve been wanting to try pixelfed but I haven’t figured out what to do: start my own for friends or join an existing one.

I heard there were some issues with a dev or something so I haven’t signed up for the original instance yet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I use https://metapixl.com/ as mine. Its active and reliable. Also, not having influencers polluting the timeline makes all of Pixelfed a really nice experience.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I love the instance I'm on and it's fairly quiet. Come on in!

https://pixtagram.social/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Try one of the existing instances. Pixelfed.social is probably a bad choice right now, as it's getting overloaded with new members and so importing from Instagram has been curtailed. The others at https://pixelfed.org/servers should be fine. If you later choose to host your own instance you can always move the data from your old one.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I don’t want to get my hopes up but is this Facebook’s MySpace moment?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Not immediately or probably for some years. Facebook's main problem is the fact its got an aging population and no young people joining. That's why Meta bought Instagram and is desperate to get their grubby paws on TikTok or force it to close down in the West.

I think internally, over the next decade, FB will start to die off organically as Meta put ever increasing focus on retention and young people.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

MySpace was way smaller than Facebook, it wasn't even available where I am for most of its (meaningful) existence (I never had a MySpace despite being the exact target age range).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Nobody left MySpace because of enshitification

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's literally billions of people on Facebook, so probably not. But maybe it's a start.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don’t think so. There’s no good alternative to Facebook that is worth leaving it for. When MySpace died, there was a significantly better alternative (FB). Even if people quit using Facebook regularly, they’ll need to keep it.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago

My personal MySpace moment for Facebook was 10 years ago. Best choice ever made.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The site doesn't suggest any alternatives though or am I not seeing that?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

The alternatives were suggested briefly in the segment, not the site. Oliver pointed to the site those people who can't ditch Meta right now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nice! Just shared this (as a PDF without the domain name lol) with my family!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey it’s a group chat with my grandma ಠ_ಠ

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

and now you’ve robbed her of her chance to sell john oliver her collection of valuable rat erotica

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why not just recommend adblockers? No ads, no revenue, no matter how much tracking.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It looks like they got that list of tips from the EFF, who created Privacy Badger. So it’s not surprising they only recommended theirs. I agree though that they should include uBO in the list.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Selling user profiling data is also worth money, even if you're not shown ads because of ad-blockers you bring value to the dataset by increasing it's size with useful demographic data.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But the thing is out of the big companies, basically none of them are in the business of selling the data they have. They are much better off if they don't allow competitors to grow by keeping all the data to themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

that's why the broligarchs are buddying up to the dictators. the bottom is falling out of the surveillance capitalism market for advertising because it was never as effective as the ad marketplace brokers said it was. so the broligarchs need to sell their spying on us service to someone else and they've elected for the police state

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
  • Not easy for most users on app-based mobile/tablet devices.

  • (Puts on tinfoil hat) His parent company, Discovery-Warner Bros, probably wouldn't like that? And John Oliver makes his living through ad revenue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not easy for mobile devices? Firefox-based browsers on mobile can have Ublock Origin :/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Normal" people don't use Facebook through the browser. Heck, I know functional, working adults, and reasonably smart kids, that don't really understand the concept of a browser/URLs and just do everything through apps, bar the bare minimum for work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Or, even worse, they think that the internet is Google and vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

i like that people are leaving zucc platforms but why is that happening suddenly? did he do something exceedingly fascist? did i miss something?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Meta declared hate speech is free speech. Lgbt folks and allies started leaving in droves

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Zuckerberg hung out with Trump at Mar a Lago and attended the inauguration, then got rid of Facebook and Instagram's fact checking, relaxed their rules on posting hate speech and discrimination, ended Meta's diversity initiatives, removed bathroom facilities at meta for transgender and nonbinary employees, made speeches in defence of Trump and expressed gratitude for finally being able to have "a productive partnership with the United States government", while removing communications channels for employees and threatening them with being fired if they talked to media about any of this. He has gone full MAGA.

This article covers most of it: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/technology/mark-zuckerberg-meta-trump.html

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

thats par for the course for facebook, no? they have always helped the fascists, in my country they literally helped elect one. they helped spread misinformation as if they already didnt care, and the diversity stuff feels just about the same brand of fake to me, so much hate in there.

beggars cant be choosers though so i guess im just glad people are actually mad this time.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

He decided to kiss the ring. People don't like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AFAIK no, but it takes awhile for everything to sink in, and hosts like John Oliver only have so much air time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

He only now was able to catch up with all the news with Meta moderation from a month ago. He is only a couple weeks back on air.

[–] [email protected] 148 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Good, glad it's getting some main stream attention. If more people start taking advantage of these settings and alternatives it's going to hurt Meta's bottom line eventually

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it’s going to hurt Meta’s bottom ~~line~~ eventually

Just hurting Meta's bottom is good enough for me

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They'll just bury the settings, or remove them. Who's going to stop them now?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

one can always delete their accounts

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As if Meta actually deletes anything

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I guess that's what the alts are for

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