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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

Wanting to talk to other human beings and only getting responses from AI/LLMs is horrible, and a detriment the humanity solving its problems (which may be the point).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This reminds me of using speech to text to send a text message. Then using text to speech to listen to the text messages. All to avoid voicemails.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Should swap it around. Send tight, short human readable email. Use LLM to expand and add flowery language for those that want it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The problem is that too often people interpret tight emails as being rude or angry. But, LLMs aren't the solution. The solution is to adjust people's expectations.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Meta encoder-decoder

[–] [email protected] 167 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 99 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

I remember when compression was popularized, like mp3 and jpg, people would run experiments where they would convert lossy to lossy to lossy to lossy over and over and then share the final image, which was this overcooked nightmare

I wonder if a similar dynamic applies to the scenario presented in the comic with AI summarization and expansion of topics. Start with a few bullet points have it expand that to a paragraph or so, have it summarize it back down to bullet points, repeat 4-5 times, then see how far off you get from the original point.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

A couple decades ago, novelty and souvenir shops would sell stuffed parrots which would electronically record a brief clip of what they heard and then repeat it back to you.

If you said "Hello" to a parrot and then set it down next to another one, it took only a couple of iterations between the parrots to turn it into high pitched squealing.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

In my experience, LLMs aren't really that good at summarizing

It's more like they can "rewrite more concisely" which is a bit different

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 weeks ago

Summarizing requires understanding what's important, and LLMs don't "understand" anything.

They can reduce word counts, and they have some statistical models that can tell them which words are fillers. But, the hilarious state of Apple Intelligence shows how frequently that breaks.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I used to play this game with Google translate when it was newish

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There is, or maybe was, a YouTube channel that would run well known song lyrics through various layers of translation, then attempt to sing the result to the tune of the original.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Gradually watermelon... I like shapes.

Twisted translations

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

Sounds about right to me.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

translation party!

Throw Japanese into English into Japanese into English ad nauseum, untill an 'equilibrium' statement is reached.

... Which was quite often nowhere near the original statement, in either language... but at least the translation algorithm agreed with itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If it isn't accurate to the source material, it isn't concise.

LLMs are good at reducing word count.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Plus it is as accurate as using an automated translator to change it to another language and back again!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't wait for the day that I can just send my ai digital twin to the meeting to talk to all the other ais and just focus on building my resume so I can jump to a better paying job where I don't have to actually do anything because companies don't need to make profit anymore just stock growth.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah but what if you’re the AI twin and you’re in the metaverse right now playing out a recursive simulation? Is focusing on better paying jobs really what you want to spend your time doing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

Talk about broken telephone.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

people will already ignore half the questions you ask in an e-mail even if you make them into bullet points

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

If you ever find a way around this let me know, it's maddening. Especially overseas contacts where I have to wait a day in-between responses, sometimes it takes a week or more to get what I need.

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