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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (10 children)

I completely blame schools adopting ChromeOS for this generational failure.

At least give them a functional OS god damn. People out here not knowing you can do more than access like 5 websites and apps with literally anything that has a microprocessor in it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago

This. The fundamentals of things computers do is so heavily abstracted now days, all kids know how to do is work with those abstractions.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

I had a meeting with a young person who had to have the concept of a directory structure explained to them for a half hour...and they're in charge of designing a file browser. 🤦‍♂️

I don't think the exercise was even successful.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Yeah, smartphones don't teach kids file structure at all.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wasn't Indy knowingly bluffing in this scene?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Fuck them kids, it's job security as far as I'm concerned.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Skipped gen z, but I know my gen z folk are barely a step above alpha but and below millennials

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 days ago (13 children)

I wonder: Has this happened with anything else?

Where an older generation struggled to understand at all, a middle generation adapted to it early enough to witness all of the quirks, and then a later generation was born into an already-smoothed out system — and they all lived simultaneously?

Seems like a uniquely modern thing, but then again agriculture and clothing and currency have all had periods of rapid change in the past.

Like were there Generation F dudes out there like “omg we’re the only ones who understand knitting frames smh”?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Landline telephones.

Original ones you rotated a hand crank to talk to an operator.
Then came rotary phones, that knowledge is slowly going away and old farts are like 'young people are stupid because they can't use a rotary phone'.
Now we have touch tone phones.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Ford Model T came with a complete manual for disassembly, maintenance, and repair. It made a generation of Americans fluent in mechanics who then went on to win World War II, to the Moon, and higher up skyscrapers than ever.

“Learn this as a child:”

“Do this as an adult:”

Never again. Right to repair doesn't do much when the manual is so expensive only brand-dedicated repair shops can afford it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

The old cars were also designed in such a way that you had to understand how the thing was constructed and functioned in order to make it work. Nowadays, I only barely understand how shifting gears works mechanically and drive an automatic. Modern cars do much of the work for you, much like modern computers.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have you heard about our Lord and Saviour, iFixit?

For real though, look it up. Some 100k or so free repair manuals in twelve languages from phones to washing machines. And often enough, the necessary toolkit in their shop.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Upgraded every old MacBook (2009pro, 2015 pro) I had with bigger harddrives and did small repairs with ifixit instructions. But you notice they get less repairable over time. The 2009 thing was built like a tank and you could upgrade ram, replace a broken GPU and this thing over all felt very repairable. I still works but isn't that useful any more 16 years after release. 2015 was way less repairable.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Never thought of it this way, but you could be right

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Re-Legalize Right To Repair and pirates will take care of the rest

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe commercial flying or electricity

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Electricity definitely spent a generation or two in the "requires technical knowledge from the user" zone before all the standardization and safety requirements got figured out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I'm also really curious. I feel like this has to have happened, but I wonder if the level of change from a technical and societal perspective in such a short time frame has happened. As the world becomes more global, the speed that technology impacts other aspects of society also becomes quicker.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This happened with the shift from manual to automatic transmissions. I used to frequently hear/read people complaining that no one knows how to drive a stick anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

no one knows how to drive a stick any more!! .

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Oh, your mom can drive a stick all right

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Sticky stick

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