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As an outsider (I live in Belgium) it feels very weird and dystopian to see everything happening in American politics with Trump and Musk.

On one side, it's very interesting and almost entertaining; on the other side, it's scary. I can't imagine what it must be like to live in the USA.

Americans, how do you cope? What's your take on the situation?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Surviving.

Right now, it feels like all I can do. Keep going, keep reaching out to other members of the local LGBT community to help be a wall to lean on, keep telling my partners that I love them. Keep sheltering whatever tiny spark is left.

And making sure that spark is fed, in whatever little ways I can. Letting myself be more open, letting my colors flash a bit more. Trying to smile in the face of hate.

As to my take on the situation, it's fucked. There's no nuance to it. We're watching our siblings and ourselves being actively erased, waking up wondering when our actual existence will be a crime. Even if we make it through, things somehow get better, there's so much trust that has been completely broken.

Our government has pissed on lines that, even with a total change of leadership, will take time to repair. Both within the country and on a global scale. Many people within the country have done the same, there will be no taking back things said and done while they thought it was "okay". There's no forgetting the hate that has been exposed.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

I'm not really sure I am coping. I've been seeing a decline for a long long time, but even though I knew it was possible I really didn't think we'd reach the point were we're pretty much going to be living under a dictatorship.

I knew that capitalist interests would continue to decrease everyone's standard of living, and I figured there would be some kind of reaction, I just never in a million years thought it would be the dumbfuck duo of Trump and Musk that actually harnessed the reaction in such a destructive manner.

It's been incredibly depressing to see the right get what they want time and time again making things worse for everyone and yet the propaganda machine somehow manages to create more right wingers.

But then again "the house always wins" and billionaires are the house so it shouldn't be a surprise. :/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Sharing a border with them makes it a little less entertaining and a little more concerning

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm trans. I don't have the luxury of ignoring it.

I have been fighting against this bullshit for ten years. I even got arrested protesting Trump's bullshit once. Met some fantastic socialists and amarchists in jail.

Yeah, entertaining, isn't it? Seeing that every warning bell that was rung was ignored? That every day I waved a sign or shoved a cop, was just a day delaying this from happening?

Has it all been futile? Have I wasted ten years fighting the same fascists my grandfather fought in WW2?

The scariest thing is that the only reason we haven't done the violent uprising thing yet is because the only way it would succeed is if the military instigated the countercoup. We won't survive under American martial law, and they're bullbaiting us into giving them an exuse to kill and imprison us all. We must fight back, but we can't fight back.

This is hell. This is hell. Never, ever, ever let it happen in Belgium. For the love of any god that gives enough of a fuck to listen, care about politics. Care about politics before they decide they don't care about you.

Because in ten years, those of us who aren't in prison camps are going to be starving and freezing. Take a good look. Take a good, long look, and be smart enough to get up and do something dangerous and crazy once in a while when it matters most.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

This is hell. This is hell. Never, ever, ever let it happen in Belgium. For the love of any god that gives enough of a fuck to listen, care about politics. Care about politics before they decide they don’t care about you.

I try! It's a hard battle, sometimes, because even here right-wing nutjobs are getting more and more normalised. We can only hope that they see the situation in the US and realise they don't want this kind of shitshow. On the other hand... even here some of those nutjobs are celebrating Donny and Elmo. That's very scary.

Has it all been futile? Have I wasted ten years fighting the same fascists my grandfather fought in WW2?

It's not! I really believe it hasn't been futile! Keep on fighting! I know it's very demanding, but never underestimate the power of the masses. I support you, even if I can only raise my voice online. And here in Belgium, I'm fighting for sure to evade the same situation.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

lol, Donald Trump ripping apart the American democratic underpinnings of Check and Balances, and driving a wedge into post war Western alliance so deep Europe can no longer rely on the US to fire at Russia ever again, coupled with threatened worldwide reciprocal tariffs which are sure to plunge the country and rest of the world into the greatest global economic depression (coincidentally) since the 1930's. Nope, not much going on over here, how the weather where you are?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it ironic that Trumpyboy is ruining a lot of things righ-wing patriots care about and they themselves don't see the problem?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Republicans would light their own children on fire, if it meant that "mud people" (look it up), MIGHT have it worse than they do. This is the philosophy that has driven the American Republican Party since the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and ensuing Southern Strategy. Christofacsist racism, misogyny, and homophobia. They could not argue the merits of their political aims on their face and win for 60 years, so their hatred drove them to support simply burning it all down, and that's exactly what Donald Trump is doing now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

It was freezing this morning. Right now the sun is shining which results in mild temperatures. Going to be a lot warmer later this week!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

People have just started to realize after 50 years that both major parties, and our system undermines the formation of a third major party, stand with the robber barons against needs of the people while stoking social division to protect the robber barons from reprisal.

Kinda demoralizing. Especially considering all the "Herp derp Freedom" kool-aid poured down our throats from birth.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can I offer you our political system with 6 governments?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If you're offering me a closet to live in over there where people act like a society then yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

This is exploitation, antisocial hell. We aren't a society so much as a gaggle of rugged individuals at each other's throats for ever dwindling oligarch scraps. There is no hope here, no community, only tribal division and hatred stoked 24/7 by for profit media, with intentionally poor public education that doesn't teach basic critical thinking or reasoning that leaves most unable to separate the propaganda from reality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

There's a society here, yes! Be my guest!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Americans, how do you cope?

Alcohol

What's your take on the situation?

I'm leaving the country. My friends are stockpiling and getting sterilized.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Move to Belgium! We have lots of quality beers and delicious fries!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can't leave. They just made my gender illegal to put on a passport.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can vouch for that, Belgian fries are by far the superior kind. In a way I'm glad I don't live there or I'd have the circumference of a small planet by now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

You get used to it when you live here, trust me. Only once a week, as is tradition!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My reaction is to get to work. The far-right is trying to take over much of the world, and it's going to take many of us to push it back. Don't wait for someone else to step up - everyone else is waiting too. Be the person who steps up. The people have power if we use it

There's groups like Indivisible doing directed pressure of those in government that need more people to contact their house representatives and senators. With that pressure for instance, they've started to get Democrats to use procedural tools to slow down senate confirmation of Trump's picks

There's movements like the 50501 protests in many cities in all 50 states yesterday, on Feb 5th, and there will be future protests

For anyone else reading this, don't think this can't happen wherever you are in the world, join the fight back locally. People in the US thought it couldn't happen to them too until it did. People in the UK thought Brexit wouldn't happen until it did. It can happen to you. Take what's happened in the US as a warning for you too to get involved in the push back

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s difficult. You’ve got people that vote red or blue for no other reason than that’s what they’re told to do by peers/family. They don’t look at the possible outcomes, just that “they win”. And wanting to help people is almost looked down upon in many facets of society.

America has a critical thinking problem, coupled with an extreme lack of genuine empathy. Don’t let the “nice American” bit fool you if you ever travel here. The nice small talk is a front, and you can very easily find yourself in an uncomfortable situation. Health care is a great example. Or anything LGBTQ+.

Honestly, it’s a culture thing. It’s toxic as hell and hard to navigate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I visited New York years ago (2014, I think), but that's nothing like other regions in the States, I imagine. Where I live (Bruges), I sometimes stumble upon American tourists in bars, but due to the nature of the places I visit they're often more open minded.

They don’t look at the possible outcomes, just that “they win”

I think this way of thinking is a big problem in a democratic system. When you vote, you don't "win" or "lose". But maybe I compare this too much to the Belgian system. There's so many political parties to choose from and they have to form a coalition to represent the majority.

Out of curiosity: how do you see the next 4 years evolving? And do you have hope for the next elections?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I might just be a cynic. But I think we just had our last free election. If I know one thing about Trump, I know that he is an honest liar. He will breathe untruths like CO2, but he always makes his intentions nakedly clear. He's planning on invading countries. He's already parceling out Ukraine like the West did to the Middle East during the Sykes-Picot treaty.

Give a damn about keeping the EU democratic and healthy. You guys might be our last hope when he finally slams the jail cell door and crowns himself king.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I am trying to ignore it. It’s like all the worst fears I could have coming true. The richest man in the world, a naked fascist and virulent transphobe, is gobbling up all the sensitive data the government has and is feeding it to AI so he can tear down the government and usher in techno-feudalism.

Meanwhile, I still have to go to work and pretend that everything is fine and normal, while the government is trying to define trans people out of existence, help Israel ethnically cleanse Palestine, and threaten every ally we’ve had.

I want to leave, but it’s extraordinarily difficult to uproot your life, and there’s no guarantee that finding a viable way to move elsewhere is going to happen.

So I’m just trying to imagine myself as a tiny individual, trying to hide from the brutality and eke out a good life with my little resources and community, and pray that whatever happens doesn’t happen to me directly.

Maybe I should be out protesting - I feel like I should - but there isn’t a mass movement right now, and there’s no leverage in government to stop them. So things are feeling pretty bleak right now.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Maybe I should be out protesting - I feel like I should - but there isn’t a mass movement right now, and there’s no leverage in government to stop them. So things are feeling pretty bleak right now.

Nothing is going to change in a big hurry, no matter what happens, but the efforts great and small that we all make are cumulative over time, so that when observable change happens, it'll be solid.

You're enough. What you can do is enough, even if it's as simple as making some space in your home to be able to accomodate someone who needs safety on short notice, getting involved in mutual aid, printing flyers, being observant and identifying small opportunities to make fascists think twice. Even just getting into a resistance mindset is a positive move.

Everything has risk, of course, and the level of risk you are prepared to take on, for you, is up to you. A teeny tiny bit of risk today might just make you feel that you can take on a bit more tomorrow, and a bit more the day after that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (5 children)

and there’s no leverage in government to stop them.

Do you think government will do anything at all in the coming weeks, months, years? I can't wrap my head around the situation at all. How does anyone with a slight bit of brains and a small grasp of history just accept this? It's so dystopian...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Over 50% of our population reads below a 6th year education and our school system has been steadily defunded and dumbed down over the past 40 years. A large portion of Americans only have 2 brain cells and they're both busy fighting for 3rd place. Ignorance and a lack of critical thinking skills is what has gotten us into this situation and I don't know if we have what it takes to get us out of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

A large portion of Americans only have 2 brain cells and they’re both busy fighting for 3rd place

I'll steal this one. That's a marvelous quote

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

There have been people fighting back. They just get 10x less media coverage than all the horrible things going on. This is part of what people mean when they say the revolution will not be televised

Many of their actions have been blocked in many of the federal courts and they are largely complying with those orders

There are many federal workers refusing to go along with all kinds of their action that slow them down

Many blue states and localities have already passed laws/ordinances to stop cooperating with the federal government ICE raid making them more difficult to carry out

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

The revolution will not be televised.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Most people are living paycheck to paycheck, and the US is so big that getting from bumfuck, Arizona to DC is a monumental task. Hell, even getting from bumfuck, NY to Albany NY is impossible for some. It's all on purpose. Most Americans are barely getting by.

To add to that, half the country wants this

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (8 children)

but there isn’t a mass movement right now

Lookup the 50501 movement. There were protests across the entire country in every single state yesterday and they are planning future ones too. Many of them were quite large especially considering how short notice they were prepared

Here's one video montage with just handful of some of the protests https://bsky.app/profile/50501movement.bsky.social/post/3lifqkjki2k2o

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not a good time, let me tell ya.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Oh I can imagine... I really don't know what I would do if I was in the same situation

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