We had their playbook with p2025 and did nothing. They started enacting it, and we still do nothing. We could have shock-and-awed them right back with prepared lawsuits and movements blow for blow, and nothing.
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We know. What we don't know is why are all civil servants just rolling over, instead of applying simple sabotage.
Whose saying they are all rolling over?
Their actions? How else do websites vanish? Whiy aren't we getting livetracks on Elon's location, or his toadies? Where are the server crashes?
Lmao, so you are asking “where are the server crashes,” in the same statement acknowledging sites have been removed. How often do you see server crashes of things that have been deleted?
To add more context - I’m a federal employee who has received these Fork emails -
They always come out at night, usually ~ 8-9 pm Eastern. One came out on a Sunday night. So you show up for work the next morning and that’s what’s waiting for you. I’m convinced this is done on purpose, to fuck with us.
As Vought (perfect Bond villain name, right?) said:
“Put Them In Trauma”
They literally want to traumatize us. They hate us because for decades we’ve been the only ones to tell them no. No, Elon, you can’t fuck all kinds of shit up when you launch a spaceship. No, Elon, you can’t make the stock market go haywire because you were high and tweeted something stupid. No, Elon, you can’t make a deal with the Pentagon and then run to Putin and do something completely different.
Elon does not like to be told no, but Elon can’t go 5 minutes without acting like the entitled dipshit that he is, so here we are.
And so, ~ 2.5 million civil servants - scientists, healthcare researchers, USAID, engineers, doctors, etc etc, will feel his wrath because he can’t be told no.
I took a big pay cut for this job because I valued job security over money after growing up in a household where jobs were not guaranteed and my parents struggled. Finally I got there after trying for years, and now Elon has to throw a shit fit.
But it’s not about me - I’ll be ok, but many others won’t. And we won’t get it back without a lot of work, work that I’m not sure that we, as a country, are going to be willing to do. The brain drain and decades of knowledge capture will be lost forever. And that’s by design - now we can all go work for contractors with fewer benefits and no job security and help Elon to make even more money.
One of the Fork emails taunted us by saying that we should be happy to leave our low productivity jobs in government so that we could go work high productivity jobs in the private sector. (So funny!) I know that’s bullshit, but also I’m old enough to not let 4chan incels trigger me that easily.
I do worry about my younger/newer coworkers though, whose heads are spinning. So, I try to help them. I’m educating them about the union and hopefully giving them the tools to get through this and deal with what comes after in the best way possible, whatever that may be.
So the next time you have to go to some annoying government place with a long line and you’re tired and hungry and frustrated, please try to remember that whoever you end up coming face to face with may have just gotten another email trolling them and telling them what a piece of shit they are and they should resign from their jobs. Just give them some grace. Be kind.
Have you been passing around copies of "Simple Sabotage" and applying those tactics?
If no, why not?
It's crazy how bad it's going to get in the next few months. I work for a branch in the fed that's almost all remote work, about 10 out of 150 or so are in person including myself. I know I'll be safe, but my team? Section? Branch? All screwed. Then what's left, for me to be swallowed by a RIF? The deal was tempting because of the threat behind your inaction likely not mattering.
Hoping it cools off soon. It's hard to sleep lately.
It double sucks because I just got my spouse into a federal job (she got herself in, but I provided her resources, resume building, etc, of course.) But now since she's considered probationary and a temporary hire? She might be let go and swallowed into regret.
What's annoying is the US cable/social media incessantly jumps right to the Trump/Musk framing of things.
The US AID shutdown has led to food aid stuck at ports as populations that rely on it starve.
A report on Monday from Paul Martin, the USAid inspector general, found that close to half a billion dollars’ worth of food was rotting because of confusion surrounding Mr Trump’s freeze last month.
How many americans have heard about the consequences of Trump's actions? 1%? How many have heard about Elon's vague and baseless claims that US AID is a big fraud? It seems every Republican I know has heard that.
The answer, of course, is for the remaining USAID staff to just ignore conflicting instructions and just give the food away. Federal workers need to understand that the job they have is not secure whether they obey or not.
Working as a federal employee comes with a set of golden handcuffs. You trade in a decent salary for retirement at the end. Firing people, or even asking them to leave for less than 10 months salary (maybe) is a huge Fuck You to those who have already sacrificed years of time. When you started your career- you couldn’t possibly predict something like a Trump train coming along to piss all over your life’s plans.
Who the fuck, with any level of competence, would ever want to apply for a federal position after seeing this shit show?
Yeah, this along with so many other things they have already done are going to cost us a shit load of tax dollars. We're going to have to pay market rates or above or offer sign on bonuses to get anyone willing to work for the fed again.
Actually, a Trump type person has been predicted for the last 25 years. The rise of populism was evident clearly for all to see in 2007, and only got stronger.
35 years. Look up Some More News's video from 2020 about how 80s and 90s pop culture tried to warn us about the absurdity of a Trump presidency and how important it is to not let people like that in power.
Fools who think Daddy will be proud of them?
Who the fuck, with any level of competence, would ever want to apply for a federal position after seeing this shit show?
That's the point. Musk et. al. are foreign assets with orders to weaken NATO and the US at all costs. They are successfully accomplishing their orders. And once the US's economy has spiraled and collapsed, the USD will no longer be a trusted currency used for global trade. Then it's BRIC's time to shine. That's their dream, at least.
Do you know about Curtis Yarvin and the so-called "network state" plan they are in the late stages of realizing? I don't think BRICS is the endgame of the tech oligarchy.
Musk is his own asset. He doesn't need to be a foreign one to fuck shit up, that's just a side business for him
People are still thinking in 20th century. The 21st century tech oligarchs are more powerful than nations. They control digital infrastructure. The ones who own social platforms can incite civil unrest. They control the algorithmic knobs of the population.
It's literally in your face how obvious it is. Musk has Trump cowering at the Resolute desk. The most powerful seat in the world.
I think people must be in denial. Trying to justify with some other reasonings other than what is. Musk isn't an asset. It isn't a side business. He's taken over the world superpower. Nation states aren't the highest theater anymore. It's tech oligarchs.
How are they going to get past the fact that there are half a dozen currencies better position to subsume the dollar than any of theirs?
Is anyone impressed at just how fast they destroyed the government? Almost as if Elon had been given illegal access to the various parts of the government before Trump purchased the seat of the president.
Hmmm I wonder how that could have happened.
Why would you be impressed? The US is a horribly outdated mess of institutions from which many are still built on the logic of the 18th century slaving owning white men being "the people" of the constitution.
Elections are still on Tuesdays because the plantation owners and their posses are supposed to be in church on Sunday and travel to the polling station on Monday. Most proper Democracies hold elections on Sundays, so people dont have to take time off work and depend on their superior to not bully them for exercising their Democratic rights.
FFS slavery is still legal in the US, as long as the slave has been convicted on some bullshit mandatory minimum sentences for Cops having planted a baggy of drugs on them.
The US is falling apart. It is inherently unstable and Trump is now accelerating the process, but it has been ongoing for much longer. Also Trump being elected not once but twice shows that he is on of the symptoms of the US falling apart, not the root cause of it.
Its a wink wink moment. Felon and his felony team must have had illegal access to the government institutions before dumbass was elected.
If that is found to be true Elon will have to go to jail one day ala Watergate. They violated the law by hacking at government servers illegally.
Hitler dismantled democracy in 53 days and there are a lot of parallels.
https://www.alternet.org/hitler-democracy/
We're coming up to 3 weeks with Trump, and they've taken a wrecking ball to a lot of government norms, including gutting any department that they think might threaten them. If history is an indicator (and it absolutely is) you can expect him to start targeting attacks against political opponents soon.
I've been wondering how long it will be until his opponents start to be arrested. That has been a successful strategy for Putin, along with rigging who can be on the ballot if there are any future elections (and from comments I heard before the election, when Trump was addressing some kind of white nationalist evangelical gathering, I get the impression that elections are far from certain now) so it would be no surprise to see a similar approach in the US.
You'll have to forgive me because I'm a European with a limited understanding of US law, but what can stand in the way of wholesale dismantling of the democratic process? Am I correct in thinking you don't have a politically independent judiciary and that the Supreme Court was stacked with Trump supporters during his first term, so he can essentially do whatever he wants?
I've been wondering how long it will be until his opponents start to be arrested. That has been a successful strategy for Putin, along with rigging who can be on the ballot if there are any future elections (and from comments I heard before the election, when Trump was addressing some kind of white nationalist evangelical gathering, I get the impression that elections are far from certain now) so it would be no surprise to see a similar approach in the US.
You'll have to forgive me because I'm a European with a limited understanding of US law, but what can stand in the way of wholesale dismantling of the democratic process? Am I correct in thinking you don't have a politically independent judiciary and that the Supreme Court was stacked with Trump supporters during his first term, so he can essentially do whatever he wants?
I was downplaying Project 2025 thinking “Musk is just going to write recommendations to President Trump but they still have to go thru Congress for cuts, what can he do?” I am still in awe he just swooped in, took over systems and is brute force closing down agencies quicker than the legal or congressional system can react. At this rate at the end of the first 90 days this Goverment will be radically different for the worse
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