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Only if you convert rubles by "purchase power parity" as opposed to the market rate, which seems like a weird way to manipulate data to fit some narrative.
Not that weird if most of that spending is domestic.
PPP is a useful measure to compare wealth although itβs usually based on goods like bread and not tanks. Thereβs a grain of truth here as the difference in wages alone makes for a huge factor in the overall cost. Having access to many raw materials is a big boon for Russia too.
The problem is that a) it's not true and b) even if it was, there is not anything to buy for that money.
Russia is running out of hardware, what are they going to do, throw rubles at the Ukrainian defenses?
I was hearing about how Russia was out of ammo and fighting with sticks and rocks two and a half years ago.
I was hearing the same about Ukraine but I just keep seeing videos of dead Russians weird.
Well then you were badly informed.
2.5 years ago all the propaganda was : "sanctions doesn't work!!" (Please remove them)
I didn't say I believed it, just that "Russia is about to run out of ammo!" Has been the cope for a long time now.
I have sincerely not heard that they'd run out like 2 years ago. We all knew they had enormous stockpiles of soviet gear, how can you not know that? Or if you did, discarded the crazy talk?
Today is another matter, they are running out, and relies on North Korea for shells and more.
Well I absolutely heard it, as early as mid 2022.
Or if you did, discarded the crazy talk? Today is another matter, they are running out,
Yes, I've heard the cycle of "well obviously it's wasn't true then, but this time they really are running out of ammo" quite a few times over the years.
Lol ok
I mean, this is from May 2022, from a guy known to be fairly pro-Ukraine:
Q: Initially, it was said that the Russians were still keeping their really good weapons. A: It looks like they don't have much left to throw in there apart from missiles. The Russian army is facing a catastrophic defeat. It has already lost its nimbus.
[Translation via DeepL]
Well nobody not living under a rock knew that wasn't correct. The error 3 years ago was quite the opposite, we thought the russkies had a great army!
I look forward to hearing it again next year
You can hear it right away:
Lol ok
Russia not only has a massive sabotage-and-disinfo campaign, they also have semi-allies running the US now.
They have NK meat, but that's running out too.
Youβd think the war would be going well for them then
EU defense needs to get upped, functional and efficient asap.
That said, Im not sure which data was used here by FT, but reports I've read include Russia currently adding repairing ancient (WWII ) military equipment to a net total production value. I.e. the real added value is considered much lower.
It's so frustrating how long Europe has been ignoring its need to be self sufficient in military defence. Even with a literal war going on next door and russia actively turning the political systems upside down.
"defense"
Weird how people have been so brainwashed into using that euphemism that they even apply it to a nation hostile to them, actively waging a war.
defense or defence
Same same, first one is US, the other is UK spelling.
I'm German, you guys figure that out amongst yourselves.
I'm Dutch.. so we need to balance it out.
Swede in France here, dΓ©fense please.
Or fΓΆrsvaret of course if you want to go down that road.
Puolustuspa, perkele.
defence or military spending?
And it's all burning in a pile in Ukraine along with Russia's economy
And Luxemburg sanitary infrastructure exceeds that of russia, I'm sure.
Russians have way more outdoor plumbing I bet!
Mostly gas piping though.
I thought about outdoor toilets ...