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I hope we respond by putting tariffs on American pickups. Democratic nations need to cut the US out of the global economy entirely until they learn how to act right.

Apologies if there's any weirdness in this post, it's my first one.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I think we can all do something. I know our economy is tiny, but Australia buys way more from the US than they buy from us... and you know what a big chunk of that is? Services. Some of those are hard to shift but others are easier.

I've hosted all my websites and registered all my domains in the US for over 20 years.

That changed yesterday and I'm transferring everything over to Australia.

For Fedi, look at Australian servers where you can. Subscriptions? Fuck off Netflix et al. Get out of Google as much as you can. If you're here you are probably already out of FB and Reddit, but leave anything else you can that is US based and try to support AU or EU.

Don't buy US foods, cars, or technology where possible (let's face it, most of those are crap anyway).

And you know what, most of the US based internet is shit now too. It was fun 20 years ago, but consistent enshittification has been the worst in the US. At least the EU is trying to fight it.

Yes our economy is tiny, but we can change more than you might think, and as the rest of the world probably will do similar, the US won't be quite as well off as it thinks it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wise beyond your years @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess trump doesn't want our rare earths. Us and China hold a duopoly so good luck.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

The only problem is you used MSN which is using the Daily Mail as a source? An American source using a UK (garbage dump of a) source to report on Australia? :\

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Heyyyyyy welcome to the "being threatened by the USA because Trump felt like it" club!

-EU + Denmark, Canada, Mexico, Colombia, Panama.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's an honour to be part of this prestigious and exclusive group! ☺️

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I hope we respond by putting tariffs on American pickups.

I kinda don't want this. Because I want those yank tanks taxed and/or regulated regardless, because it's the right thing to do, and I don't want progress towards that to be undermined by being seen to get caught up in a bullshit trade war.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd actually request more weirdness in future, please.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I'll see what I can do! 😉

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I remember reading that the government was hoping that because we run a trade deficit with the yanks they wouldn't do this. Look forward to that just being the assumption and the government having done 0 planning.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What can you really do to prepare for something like this? Specifically against the US which is:

Iron Ore to China: China was the dominant market for Australian iron ore, accounting for around 85% of exports. This amounted to approximately AU$115 billion in value in 2023, with over 736 million tonnes shipped in 2022

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Steel to America: United States: Exports of steel to the U.S. were much higher, totaling US$237.51 million in 2023. Key products included flat-rolled and semi-finished steel2.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-much-iron-ore-and-steel-do-5bWZvTZeRqSNQSlFbu1MBg

I'd like to know more about just how big our steel industry is apart of the exports pie especially compared to iron ore but I suspect we may be blowing this tariff out of proportion

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@spiffmeister
Didn't we just hand over $800,000,000 for those used submarines we bought on gumtree? I'm sure the yanks are good for it, they said they were our mates, right?
@TheCriticalMember

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

The United states can't be trusted as a trading partner anymore. trump doesn't even honour his own deals.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

there was absolutely no planning any country can do to survive an insane trade war with the united states. nothing. there's no other trading partners that can take the exports in the volume every country trades with the US, without taking devastating hits to their own economies, which would see recession and depressions on a scale never experienced before in the modern world.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

ummmmm, there's a reason people, companies, and nations want to trade with the united states, it's because they have the largest economy, with the richest per capital spending power of any place in the world, with 342 million people. no one is "cutting the us out of the global economy" not even countries that trump is about to punish with economy wrecking tariffs, he'll just tariff you more. this sounds like a good plan, until you run the numbers, and "Cutting the US our of the global economy" reduces every nations ability to trade by 20% - 50%, and that my friends, leads to hundreds of millions of people into destitution and poverty on a scale no one has ever seen before. I mean with one fell swoop Trump did away with USAID and it's $40 billion dollar foreign aid budget, which in turn cut off tens/hundreds of millions of real live human beings, all across the world, from foreign aid consisting of life sustaining food, clean water, & medication, the death toll will be astronomical. soverign nations like saying they can do without the us, but if you watch closely people are going to start dying from just $40 billion being taken away. that's a fraction or a fraction of a fraction of the trade monies exchanged with the us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

and it's all done so the richest in the US can swoop in and buy up the crumbs that are left of US households & the citizens become beholden to them...it's all a financial coup and it's going very well so far.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US is a failed state. We're going to have to learn to live without it sooner or later. The only reason it has so much influence is because we all made it the centre of the global economy. That's what needs to change.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ok, but realize what that's going to cost in the near term, and it's going to be more painful than any war you've ever fought, any fire you've ever put out, and any economic downturn your country has ever experienced, up front, and i don't believe most modern economies want to shoot themselves in the head quite yet, they'll have to endure humilating trade concessions which will shrink their economies gradually, but they're not gonna want to pull that rip cord just because they're a bit miffed

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I believe it's all coming down. Don't want it, not looking forward to it, but I think our society is definitely in decline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

same. welcome to the party, pal

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yippee ki yay motherfucker! 😉

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

They'll just beg, and then roll over and ask for more when that doesn't work

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know that despite how everything panned out out in Canada. Albo is going to immediately fold and spend his final days in office grovelling.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh please Albanese, put a 50% tariff on American cars.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We’re talking about Albo here, he’ll apologise and ask if Trump can double it.

Dutton would offer the country to be annexed mind you.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even the "polite" Canadians fought back - and won. Everyone would when it's the economy at stake.

Still, no way he's touching truck prices.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Just American ones. There are multiple non us alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

We have to shoot our own feet untill they learn how to walk.

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