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Meanwhile, the French financing will include commitments from the United Arab Emirates, American and Canadian investments funds and French companies like telecommunications firms Iliad and Orange, and aerospace and defense group Thales

A few days before France’s AI Action Summit, which kicked off on Monday, the UAE said it would invest between 30 billion euros and 50 billion euros in the construction of a one-gigawatt AI data center in France as part of a campus focused on the technology’s development.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/10/frances-answer-to-stargate-macron-announces-ai-investment.html

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And on what EU hardware it will run?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

In the AI FACTORIES!

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/ai-factories

...In terms of actual chips probably nvidia...

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah yes, politics as a driving force for technological innovation. This time it'll work. 😒

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the saddest thing here is that Europe has no capital markets union where it's own private companies should be putting this money in

Europe will always be behind while it's more difficult to raise funds and do business

This AI is just the latest thing, who knows what else Europe will soon fall behind in

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

That, I think, is a symptom not a cause.

The cause is societal: the EU thinks that innovation should come top down. By giving established corporations subsidies, and a large administration that steers everyone every step of the way. To make sure nobody does anything out of the ordinary.

That works if you want to improve car crash safety by 5%. But, ofcourse, that doesn't work for true, novel ideas. Concensus being antagonistic to novelty.

And it's not solely a "bad politicians" problem. A majority of Europeans are simply afraid of change, want their 9-to-5 job to look exactly the same for their whole life. The elected reflect their electorate.

Too bad the world changes regardless of you participating.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My taxes at work to fund shitty generators. People around me will cheer for this since they are not working in the programming industry and don’t know how it’s yet another way to lower the quality of all that we’ve done so far. We’re fucked.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Investors will pump 109 billion euros into artificial intelligence (AI) projects in France in the coming years,

It will be private investment, venture capitalists, that provide the money and extract the data and wealth. All Macron is doing is giving it the official seal of approval from the government. He might relax some rules and make it easier to invest but your tax Euros are safe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

People around me will cheer for this since they are not working in the programming industry

I don't know how you can say this when programming is one of the best uses for AI

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As a senior dev, I have no use for it in my workflow. The only purpose it would serve for me is to reduce the amount of typing I do. I spend about 5-10% of my time actually writing code. The rest of my dev time is spent in architecting, debugging, testing, or documenting. LLMs aren't really good at most of those things once you move past the most superficial levels of complexity. Besides, I don't actually want something to reduce the amount I'm typing. If I'm typing too much and I'm getting annoyed then it's a sure sign that I've done something bad. If I'm writing boilerplate then it's time to write an abstraction to eliminate that. If I'm writing repetitive tests then it's a sign I need to move to a property based testing framework like Hypothesis. If the LLM spits all of this out for me, I will end up writing code that is harder to understand and maintain.

LLMs are fine for learning and junior positions where you'll have more experienced folks reviewing code, but it just is not that helpful past a certain point.

Also, this is probably a small thing, but I have yet to find an LLM that writes anything other than shitty, terrible shell scripts. Please for the love of God don't use an LLM to write shell scripts. If you must, then please pass the results through shellcheck and fix all of the issues there.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Heh for me even the newest models like the new Claude are only really useful when I did the thinking and the initial code writing, and i ask it to simplify it or to make it use more efficient libraries/features. Because when asking it to do my work it produces shit, and im very junior level

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

yeah it's definitely an assistant not a cheap developer... or is it :O

Devin just came to take your software job… will code for $8/hr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhIm-Dk1pzk /s

I'm learning javascript and love it, so much easier to query Mistral/Qwen/Deepseek Distilled than scrolling through endless search results hoping someone ran into the same problem I did

I also run the AI models in LM Studio on my own machine so I'm happy with that as well, I try to self host where I can

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Eh, copilot is still more miss than hit whenever I use it. It's probably equally dogshit for other uses as well unless your goal is to just generate bullshit and you need to hit a specific word count.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every time I try to use it it hallucinates bugs. It’s a waste of time for me.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago
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