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Edit: I don't drink alcohol, it's just the best way to describe it. From comments I'll be going on a low carb diet, thank you all.

Explanation: male, 38, 130 pounds. Skinny, low muscle mass but have a beer keg belly.

My day is 7am wake up. Get kids to school. Work until 5. Get kids from school. Cook, shower and then I'm exhausted AF.

I'm semi fit? I'm a mechanic professionally and spring til summer I mountain bike regularly. So my calves are monsters.

But would like.. basic at home sit ups. Push ups etc like on a Saturday, would that help at all?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A beer belly, despite the name, is not exactly from beer. A beer belly isn't specifically from the caloric spikes associated with heavy beer drinking (where a certain amount of alcohol for a certain inebriation is accompanied by a massive intake of simple carbs compared to liquor). It's due in part by genetics. It's called visceral fat, meaning it's intertwined with your torso's organs and muscles. The concern here, particularly when beer-bellied people are heavy enough to show notable fat between their knees, elbows, and faces, is there's likely fat/cholestoral buildup in the circulatory system. The beer belly is a heart attack predictor (but please understand overall weight is part of that indicator, not just location of fat). Some people are prone to adding fat relatively evenly across their body while some are prone to a beer belly. This variance in fat distribution is why skin-pinch based BMI tests are not accurate for health (testing arm skin misses beer bellies) and why weight/height BMI charts aren't either (can categorize distributed-fat risks a little too closely to beer bellied fat).

As for a solution, I support low-carb diets as you've indicated you'll try. They come with risks and peculiarities. As someone with sizable forearms and calves but about 40lbs of beer belly, keto has worked great for weight loss. The consequence of not being careful with eating (counting carbs but not calories to types of fat) is my cholestoral is still high when I do keto stints.

As you consider a low carb diet, I want to point out some misconceptions for keto, since that's mostly what you'll find. Atkins and Weight Watchers are close to keto. Paleo has a similar major component by prohibiting simple processed grain (white flour) but isn't the same otherwise. It's not a high protein diet - eat a normal amount. It's not a high fat diet - higher than the sugar industry-funded diet studies blaming fats will recommend, but still a normal amount. It does push you to choose better fats (nuts, avocado) rather than bad fats (bacon, butter) but fats fare a little better as a snack than proteins.

A major misconception is that fats make you fat and dietary cholestoral gives you coronary cholestoral. Both are indirectly related by directly false. Your belly is not stuffed with butter and cashew oil. It's stuffed with human fat. Fat is a category, not a particular substance. Your body has to convert food into body fat. When you eat lots of sugars or simple carbs (which quickly turn into sugar in your stomach), your body is happy to waste energy converting the other food into body fat because you're rapidly adding energy (sugar) to your blood. While sugar highs aren't exactly real, sugar crashes absolutely are. It's why a big pasta meal can leave you hungry in an hour. So what if you stop eating sugar and simple carbs? You can't put walnuts in your bloodstream. Your body has to take that fat and convert it into body fat, and then that body fat gets converted into blood sugar. It's a lengthy process that costs a lot of energy. It takes a week of dedication to make it work. When you get ketosis in full swing, your body will fuel itself with body fat as it takes time to convert dietary fat into body fat for later. Similarly for dietary cholestoral, you can't take egg yolks and coat your arteries. Your personal cholestoral is produced by your body and is related more to total dietary calorie intake, dietary proportion of saturated fats, and genetic disposition for fat distribution.

Personally, a major benefit from keto is simply being able to confidently turn down all sugar and simple carbs. Beer, cake, cookies, sugary drinks, chips, bread, ice cream, and candy. I can easily convince myself that a little treat won't hurt in a non-keto month but I have poor self control. A little becomes a lot. Part of that is because I'm "cleaning up" carby foods I abstained form during a keto month. But on keto? It's an easy rule to follow since I'm as happy with cheddar as I am with ice cream. While I'll come off for a few months to a year, the monthly keto cycles make my weight chart look like a slinky going down stairs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Great writeup!

my cholestoral is still high when I do keto stints.

bad fats (bacon, butter)

If you don't mind me asking, how long are your keto sessions, and which part of your cholesterol is high? Just LDL?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

For my most successful keto run, it was 6 months of picking one weekend per month to party on beer and simple carbs (supposed to focus on whole grains monthly). I had places to go, foods to experience. But I went from 235 to 195. Using a whole weekend to carb up all the wrong ways ties into me using this diet somewhat carelessly but still effectively. Carbing smartly would smooth out the weight loss but, instead, my chart looks like a slinky falling down stairs. After I hit the bottom for my big day, I gained about half back in the following year. I'd like to get a 3+ month run started in a few weeks. I started Jan 1 but work trips tripped me up, sending me to places where it was impossible to go carb free.

From what I remember, the bad cholesterol was high and good was average. My blood pressure reduced somewhat over that 6 months, although the dramatic weight loss also promoted more physical activity. I didn't really add exercise, but I was able to do all the random daily stuff for longer before overheating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

by experience, no. You need to stop drinking beer so often, and you need to eat less. Exercise is still a plus, but you need to sync your activity with your meals. I still eat whatever I want but in less quantities in general.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do not drink any alcohol at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apologies for assuming. Sugar is the number one culprit for a "beer belly", so you find more than enough in beer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Sugar and bread i down like it's going out of style

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym. Gym is for strength.

Source: I'm related to a competitive body builder.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It really depends on your metabolism. There is no right answer here. Some people can get rid of a beer belly with minimal effort and others will have to really work at it. Your best bet is changing diet, not drinking, and more regular focussed exercise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yup, weight management is 95% diet and 5% exercise. A single snickers bar takes a 12 minute mile of jogging to burn off; Our bodies are incredibly energy efficient. So if you’re looking to lose weight, it’s better to just skip the snickers bar altogether.

Building muscle can raise your basal metabolic rate, (because you burn more calories to maintain that extra muscle) but even that is negligible when you consider how many calories you can consume without even realizing it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No. I'm currently in the process of losing my beer belly.
It's going really well, here's what I do:

  • only drink water, nothing with alcohol, calories or sweeteners
  • no snacks or sweets
  • whey shake for breakfast, small lunch (sandwich) and a normal-sized supper.
  • walk 30 miles per week, generally stay physically active, commute by bicycle.

The good thing is that it works without counting calories or weighing myself.
The bad thing is that I'm hungry half the day, but I figure that's my body burning fat, so I even kinda enjoy it.
I expect my belly to be gone by midsummer. A few situps won't change much, there's a FUCKTON of calories stored in a beer belly.
It's a big ole barrel full of fuel and you need to burn it all, even though your body doesn't want to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you been tracking your weight to confirm it's working? Are you eating on a consistent schedule? I don't think you should be hungry if you are. The reason why being hungry concerns me is that being hungry all the time can mean your body is in a starvation mode rather than a fasting or fat burning mode. Instead of burning fat, your body slows down and weakens your other bodily functions to conserve energy and survive a famine rather than look a little sexier.

I used to be hungry upon waking up until remote work in 2020 let me casually skip breakfast. I woke up later and started waiting for lunch. I haven't regularly eaten it since then despite going back to an office. I rarely feel hungry in the morning unless I have something late (later than my general noon-8pm eating timeframe) and generally sugary (immediate blood sugar spike, leading to higher fat storage and followed by a blood sugar drop). If your body knows when your next meal is, it should be able to hold off on the hungry feeling until then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm tracking progress by trying on various old pants that have stopped fitting me one after another in the past, and the waistline is shrinking fast.
I eat on a regular schedule, but I'm also at a big caloric deficit. There's no way to do that without getting hungry.
"Starvation mode" is a myth, by the way. Or rather, your body enters it whenever you're losing weight. But it can't sustain its weight when you stay active and eating little.
Don't worry, as long as I can ride my bicycle for hours on end, concentrate at my job, and stay healthy, I know I'm doing fine. I'll reconsider my approach when I'm starting to feel weak, or getting brain fog.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No. You need to adjust your diet and cut you caloric intake. Burning calories with exercise can give you some wiggle room but won't do anything by itself. You could skip exercise entirely and still make progress with a good diet. I would suggest intermittent fasting. Everyone I know who's had success dieting has done so with that method.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep. Weight is lost through diet, sport might help but can also make you hungry. The main benefit of exercise is better health through increased fitness.

People should compare how much calories exercising burnes per hour compared to the simple act of e.g. switching sugary drinks for water. Especially when you aren't fit to begin with, meaning you won't for example be able to run for hours each week.

Intermittent fasting definitely is a good method. But it varies for everyone. Imo it helps to start with changing what you groceries you buy. At least to me the further away from the plate you implement caloric reduction the easier it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's a good point and something I follow as well but didn't think about earlier. If you don't have it around you can't eat it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Not unless you stop drinking beer, no.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Exercise won’t change much.

What you need to do is eat less calories than you burn — so eat a little less, and you will lose weight.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You don't have to work out at all. Just eat clean and don't drink. It helps if you use a calorie tracker, so you know what you're taking in numerically.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm going tks tart tracking calories and carbs. I shouldn't have to adjust my diet too much. Probably cut down on breads the most. I love bread. And I love cheese

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In did keto for a while and also started strength training.

I did really well and went from about 270 to 184. I've since gone back up because i stopped everything sure to reasons.

I'm not here to recommend keto though. (Not against it but damn is it expensive!)

Why i bring it up is that i had to look at the nutrition label on everything

Doing that for more than a year really helped me notice how many calories are in things, and that theres can be surprising differences between different brands of the same thing.

Some beef jerky could be 2 or 3 times the calorie counts of others just because of extra ingredients(it's almost always extra sugar) even when its the same serving size/package

Just start looking at the options you are considering purchasing and you can make better choices without even using a calculator, you learn then which brands of which things are better for you and that will help without even chasing what you are eating.

Kind of a nice nice way to ease into changing your diet if you don't actually start with changing the things you eat, just the versions of them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

damn is it expensive

What part was expensive? We're you getting organic veggies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Meat and fats are expensive. Not having enough variety of foods that excite you will make it incredibly hard for people to stay on it, or so i was led to believe

In order to succeed you need enough variance to stay with it, from what i remember reading before doing it the single most common reason anyone fails a diet is because most diets that have restrictions fail to provide enough variety to keep people satisfied. Something about diminishing returns and how we are built to crave a variety of foods so that our ancient ancient ancestors didnt die from losing a single source of nutrients

I will admit, there are a lot more options of keto specific foods than when i was on it.

The bread products ive seen for keto are amazing compared to the dense heavy eggy elastic loafs i was able to find

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That makes sense. Thank you for explaining

I've been doing a subset of keto for a few months, carnivore. I've been living off mostly inexpensive ground beef, eggs, and liver. I found it was less expensive then my preketo food budget.

will admit, there are a lot more options of keto specific foods than when i was on it.

Yeah, some of the new keto breads are so tempting! the chuffles that seem popular look really good

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You should also use a calorie calculator to see what your maintenance caloric intake is. I.e. how many calories your body burns a day with your average routine. Then it's just a matter of eating less than that to lose weight or more than that to gain weight.

Edit: just wanted to say that cutting/reducing carbohydrate intake is definitely a good idea like you mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I think you meant:

Yes

If you stop drinking beer and get a better diet.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

dudes a mechanic im sure OP gets plenty of strength training from that. could use another cardio activity tho when mountain biking isnt an option

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

So to actually be helpful and answer op's actual question.

Any physical activity will help to an extent.

What will help more for weight loss is counting calories and expending more than you consume.

But if you want to have any kind of actual muscle tone you need to do resistance training, wrenching alone isn't enough.

If op is cool being skinny/ low muscle tone, then diet and cardio will do it. If op wants muscle tone then they should lift weights or do some resistance training like calisthenics.

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