I mean I certainly don’t oppose getting rid of DEI but let’s not be haste in assuming what something is called is actually what it is.
Is North Korea a Democracy? They are called the DPRK no? Democratic people’s republic?
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Most people who are against DEI are against the "E".
They believe that equality is the end goal, not equity.
Equality = equal opportunity
Equity = equal outcome
Equity = something you made up?
Equity literally means fairness and impartiality.
As someone outside of the US, all I can see is people fighting over who has a right to a job and who doesn't, while the rich hoard wealth. DEI wouldn't be an issue if there was a safety net, maybe with UBI based on the minimum liveable wage, public housing, public education, public healthcare and government grants to start small business ventures.
If you're opposed to DOGE, does that mean you're opposed to efficiency in government?
Yes. Emphatically so.
The more efficient government is, the easier it is to usurp power.
Do you support democracy?
If so then that must mean you support the DPRK.
Government should not be efficient, at least not in what the business class calls "efficiency".
Government is the entity that performs those tasks that need to be done, but nobody wants to do. If those essential tasks can be done "efficiently", everyone is going to want to get paid for doing them.
Yes I am
I guess it depends on what is efficient.
The "inefficient" splurges, like the moon project, lead to significant scientific advances...balancing people on a knife edge when it comes to healthcare, etc.
That's a stupid take tbh. Nobody is against those things. What people have a problem with is the side effects. Very obvious to see in the entertainment sector where entire historic events and facts are ignored for the sake of DEI. Saw that with the cleopatra movie and is currently a big problem with assassins creed shadows which is literally insulting large parts of japanese culture just so they can put their western morals into it.
That's a stupid take tbh. The entertainment sector has whitewashed and sugar-coated history so badly people believe that's what actually happened. The truth of long historic events would never be accurately portrayed as it would contain almost exclusively rape and slave exploitation. The entertainment industry already portrays history as complete fiction so why not make it entertaining to more than just the groups who caused the rapes and exploitations.
The truth of long historic events would never be accurately portrayed as it would contain almost exclusively rape and slave exploitation
I know that american history isn't that long so there's a lot of that in it, but I can assure you that there are a lot of historic events in the history of other countries that are more than that.
already portrays history as complete fiction so why not make it entertaining to more
That's not what happens - games and movies are claiming to be "as historically accurate as possible" just to have blatant mistakes all over it for the sake of diversity.
History of every country is full of rape and slavery. Not sure why you bring up America but it certainly had it during its short life. Name any long ago historic event in any country and a portrayal of it from the entrainment industry.
That's not DEI as far as I understand it though. DEI would be hiring people of different abilities and backgrounds in the other parts of film making such as costume, music etc. The Cleopatra mockumentary was a piece of propaganda trash based on fan fiction.
When they cannot do their job, and complain about it.
People don't have a problem saying they oppose dei or the full phrase and will happily explain that they do not like workplace policy designed around diversity equity and inclusion.
Dei is absolutely something that should be considered but the right managed to absolutely annihilate it with their fake news propaganda campaign. When its brought back it needs to be packaged different. I think having every corporation parrot the phrase over and over doesn't not help.
I think people vastly overestimate the impact of DEI anyway. Where I have worked it's basically you can't discriminate against women or minorities.
There were no extra points for hiring or promotion. HR had their diversity goals, but it was really out of their hands other than targeted advertising.
The elephant in the room that the anti DEI folk dance around is simply "But we want to discriminate!"
HR had their diversity goals
anti DEI folk dance around is simply “But we want to discriminate!”
Did I read you wrong or weren't those DEI HR folks actually discriminating?
Despite earning literal millions for my employer(maybe billions, I didn't do the full math and got really upset when I realized it was at least millions) I was not included in any promotions while women that had done a quarter of the earning I had, if that, were promoted above me. I wasn't included and left to rot. Promoting, hiring, and giving awards to people because they belong to a minority is borderline retarded in the purest medical sense. Promoting someone that is a hard worker, intelligent, or a cornerstone to the business despite them belonging to a minority is how it should be, but neglecting people because of their skin color and gender is how we got here, simply doing it to the other gender or ethnicity doesn't solve anything. Let's lay this out for you. Who remembers Rick Flairs Retirement Pay Per View(PPV) Event a few years back? A certain cable operator was going to lose the right to have it on their service due to MAJOR problems with the PPV service showing incorrect prices. Regularly prices for live events were $4.99, 6.99, and 7.99, for events meant to be $69.99, that's about 90% loss of income or more. Rick Flairs team was about to pull the plug and go to Netflix, this was his last hurrah, this had to make him money, now this cable operator, let's call them "Cable Town" had a single engineer that had been working on this issue, and had very good success with no event that they worked the data ever having a pricing issue. This engineer saved the day for Rick Flair and Cable Towns relationship, but Cable Town promoted a woman over the engineer, a woman that had improved a system for contracting out to third party cable providers, that had yet to turn a profit due to just starting out. The engineer that was consistently fixing the PPV events pricing data walked the hell out. Now, where did Mike Tyson's most recent fight air? Netflix. Not Cable Town. D.E.I. is dumb, and doesn't work. The best and brightest regardless of their ethnicity, gender, or anything else unique to them should be promoted and paid in step with their contributions to the income of the organization, otherwise you risk losing MAJOR clients to an internet startup that takes things like profit seriously.
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