Oh how quickly people forgot about Plasma 4. When a Debian stable is released with Plasma 6 then I'll know it's ready for me. I don't rush into major KDE releases anymore.
this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2024
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4 is two major versions back. For this statement to be fair, you should have evaluated it against 5. (Spoiler alert: that release was super smooth)
My point was more that it was a very rough release even for a .0 and the distros should have waited a bit longer before shipping it as a default. All said I <3 KDE and have been using it since 0.9.6 I think
As said: yes, 4.0 wasn't ready. But 5.0 was, so I think it's fair to assume that they learned from their mistake and 6.0 is fine too.
Noobs don't use Debian.
I tried Debian for my very first Linux install very long ago. Its installer formatted my windows partition despite me explicitly telling it not to.
Never touched it after. Not out of resentment, but because I just don't need it for anything.
Can confirm, after 8 years of distro hopping i stopped at Debian, Debian is for home servers and tired ass mothafuckers
Debian sid user here. If it appears now or in two weeks in the repo does not change anything for me as I don't depend on the changes for my workflows. For Debian Stable I actually demand them to come much later, in a mostly bugfree version. What's the rush when it probably needs more field-testing?
For Debian Stable, it should actually never come, cause what's the point of KDE on a server?
Lol. My gaming PC runs Debian Bookworm and KDE.
Lol. My server runs Arch Testing.
Nice! How many 9s you got on that?
Like...probably 1.
... How many zeros preceed that 9?
~pls~ ~no~ ~bully~ ~;_;~
Edit: Actually my site is up about 99.9% of the time, and that's good enough cause all it currently serves is this pic:
Least furry Arch user
Haha those stupid idiots are big dumb for not knowing about the incredibly niche thing.
sweetie, chill
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Debian repos moving slowly is niche?
For a "nüb"?
Yes.
Nah.
You define a 'nüb' for me please, I mistakenly thought it meant "noobie".
Even a noobie would be aware that Debian repos move slowly.
That info is not "niche" like you claimed.
The fact I am here learning that the stable deb release won't include this update for years says otherwise, but sure homie 🫡 (am noobie).
You run Debian on your workstation?
I'm a Linux noob, I bought a refurbished Thinkpad to prepare myself for doing that. Been using that as much as I can for personal stuff while I experiment with running some of the more resource heavy programs I use in MS.
I have used a rasbpi with octoprint as a local server for CNC stuff, but that didn't take much configuration.
Sounds like the answer is no.
So you're not the person the meme is about, homie.
Neat. I don't remember claiming it was, so have a good night or whatever.
You sound like you use arch, btw.
What you claimed is that the fact that Debian repos move slowly (one of the key defining features of the distro) is a "niche" fact to Debian noobs (people who are new to using Debian).
It's not.
And you can check my history -- it's NixOS all day.
Keep in mind your arguing the validity of a fuckin' meme with a stranger here.
On that note, you're a bit of a prick aren't ya? This is a strange way to get your rocks off but you go ahead and do you. Have a great day 🫡
Says the guy who immediately got upset and snarky about a meme.
The irony is amazing.
TIL the only reason to mock a meme is if you're upset, you can't just think the meme is half-baked and joke about it. (Even if you upvote it because you did chuckle you're still just upset).
You strike me as a true Linux master with 0 people skills.
Enjoy that irony and your day 🫡
Oh me too, I'm just joking around too.
Phew, that was easy!
No need to be upset, can you please calm down?
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Oh wow that's quite the tantrum.
Have a great evening!
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I mean, the point of Debian is stability. If I'm running Debian then I'm not even gonna want to try and install the thing until after I've seen 100 people use it. I don't think they'll be looking for it in repos.
Plasma 6 is the most tested release EVER. There where at least 5 ways to test it, there was KDE Neon and a dedicated atomic Fedora image for it.
There are many bugs only fixed in Plasma 6.
So it is debateable
Both of you misunderstand the point of Debian's stability.
When I run Debian Stable I want to be sure nothing changes about how the system works, until I have time to plan an upgrade.
So KDE6 could have literally zero bugs and it still wouldn't make sense to push it into a current Debian release, because it has new features.
I think backwards compatibility is the keyword here. That would be the biggest requirement to allow updates.
New bugs, and maybe for example new hardening policies needed, could be another one. Maybe a future firefox implements feature x and you want to / have to disable that.
But at the same time Firefox is the best example of upstream doing the versioning. They know when to freeze features and likely backport every security critical issue. Thats not the case with many other packages debian ships, where it just doesnt ship updates whatsoever.
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