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Image alt text: An image of Steam's top 10 best-selling games at the time of posting, three of which are marked as "prepurchase"

I checked the Steam stats and noticed that in the top 10 best selling games by revenue, there's three games that aren't even out yet. If we ignore the Steam Deck and f2p games, it's three out of four games. They have also been in the top 100 for 4, 6, and 8 weeks respectively, so people just keep on buying them. I would love to know why people keep doing this, as the idea of pre-ordering is that there is a physical copy of a game available for you on release, but this is not a concern with digital items. So after so many games lately being utterly broken on release, why do people not wait until launch reviews to buy the game? If you touch a hot stove and get burned multiple times, when does one learn?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've stopped preordering most games, partially because of a backlog, partially because games like 2077 ruined my trust in even "good" companies (and no, I do not think 2077 deserves the redemption arc the Internet gives it). I did however pre-order Path of Exile 2 by a week because I had A) played a beta experience which was terribly fun B) followed all of the content creators talk about the beta's they played and how even when they complained it felt like choices I'd like (more action focused combat) and C) the preorder I got came with keys for friends I wanted to distribute ahead of time. So I knew for sure I was going to play it, like it at least enough to justify the price, and that I wanted to preload it for a launch party.

Pretty much the biggest and best reason to preorder is for the preload so you can play at launch. But not every game needs to be played at exactly the launch time (in fact we struggled on launch day of poe2 but did eventually get to play) and all pre-orders should be done as close to the launch date as possible so you can get an easy refund if it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Not really. The one exception I made in recent times was Cities Skylines 2 after I had 400+ hours in the original, and that was only due to a 30% off sale days before release. Though I wouldn't recommend it for most, I still have 42 good hours in it so it was worth my money.

Otherwise I'm a very patient gamer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

If there is a game that i'll definitely buy on launch and there is some real benefit for pre ordering, i might do it. But even then i'll wait for the last few hours and "pre-order" then. If there is no benefit for me, why should i tell the company "i dont care about quality of your game, i'll pay anyway". Because that is how the ones making decisions will see pre order.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Yeah I’ll pre order any game that I plan on buying. There’s no practical reason not to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

What if the game launches and you find out everyone is saying it is incomplete, doesn't run properly, and is crashing their consoles over and over?

That would be the practical reason I would think of for not just outright purchasing something that hasn't come out

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I find it interesting four of the top 10 sellers are Free To Play.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't think digital pre-orders even include banking functionality. I wouldn't know because I lack the nerd cred of ever pre-ordering a game

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Steamdeck top 4. Yeah right Valve.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

like steam controllers back in the day when they were always top 10 in those ”top seller” lists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

No, I do not pre-order games. I have joined some early access campaigns for games I was very interested in, like Kerbal Space Program and Satisfactory, but...generally "pre-order" is something the BIG studios that are all owned by Microsoft now do, they don't need the funding to get the game done. Meanwhile, Subnautica wouldn't have made it to 1.0 without their early access campaign.

Especially now that games are often distributed via internet download rather than physical disc or cartridge, it's not a matter of making sure you can get a copy. The last game I pre-ordered was Majora's Mask.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I don't buy a lot of games that have pre-order any more but no, I don't. If I want to buy it before it is released and have a pre-order I do it the same day or just the day before release but I think I will stop with this too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

No. I am fairly sure almost everything on the top seller lose is also in my ignore category.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Very rarely, usually out of interest for the bonuses or out of spite to a circlejerk that has formed against it. Have they been great games? No, but they have also not turned out to be bad games or something I did not expect, as I did my homework.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Hissssss 🐍

Don't preorder, what the hell are you people thinking?!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I pre-order games. Steams refund policy makes it pretty much risk-free. Usually it's shortly before launch, if I want to play the game immediately anyway. For big games, reviews pretty much always come out before launch or on the day of, so I can still always cancel, if it looks bad. I don't remember regretting any of these purchases, even if I didn't like all the games.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So why not just buy it on the day of the launch? See the reviews, or even better yet wait a few days before seeing actual reviews and not reviews against free/early access copies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Reviews almost always come out several days to a week before release so by the release day I’ve seen them all. In addition to that, lots of the genres I like have well known players in the community who often get a chance to play early builds for marketing purposes so you’ll get an idea of whether the game’s at least worthwhile WELL before release. And if the game ends up being terrible, well Steam doesn’t care if you pre ordered or bought the game at launch, they’ll refund you just the same.

And when games I like come out I usually want to play them at release so if I waited for the game to release to buy it I’d have to sit there and download it first. You’d also lose out on any pre order bonuses which are often like free access to paid content which saves you a little money in the long run, or maybe you get to play the game early.

I guess the idea behind not preordering is you don’t want to get bamboozled into buying a bad game? But the thing is once you’ve been playing games for awhile and you know what you like, it’s actually REALLY hard to be tricked into buying a game you won’t like. It is very easy to tell when a game is going to release with issues or be something you don’t like. In 20 years of preordering games I think the only time I ever got duped by a game was No Mans Sky, but to be fair they put a lot of effort into lying about that one, to the point that I was able to get a refund on it outside of the refund window. So it still worked out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sometimes I want the freebies you get with the pre-order, sometimes it's about pre-loading.

before seeing actual reviews and not reviews against free/early access copies?

"Actual reviews", because you can only have an opinion on something, if you paid for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I did pre-order KC:D II, but it's the first full price big title I've purchased in a long while. I was hoping to have a new GPU at release, but it looks like I'll have to wait a little longer. At least they'll have ironed out the major bugs at that point.

The reason I preordered the game was that there's a bonus quest, the game was 10% off and I can theoretically still cancel my preorder from Gamesplanet in case the reviews suck. It's not like pre-orders are irreversible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would make a very rare exception and pre-order only certain titles, like if there was a new Civ Game, cause I knew I was going to get it immediately anyway and sometimes they'd let you pre-load.

But with the new Civ being nearly $170 CAD for the full version, I'm not even doing that anymore. I look forward to the real Civ VII release date of sometime in the 2027 Steam Christmas sale lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

The last game I preordered was CP 2077. Wasn't even mad because I got a decent price for a physical copy and it was worth it for the memes alone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Only games I'm super confident I'll love. Never got screwed over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Haven't played the other two, but have been playing monster hunter for almost 20 years now. Capcom is wysiwyg when it comes to monhunbo. And the recent releases have had exclusive pre-release gear (albeit ones with short lived usefulness). And while they and hello games are still releasing new content for free, they can have my money any time they want.

I trust my credit card more with Sean Murray than my wife.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

No, it just doesn't make sense to me to do so. I mostly play single player games, so special skins to show you preordered are pretty pointless, and the most you tend to get is a discount on some DLC that I can just buy later, once I know I've enjoyed the game enough to warrant it, or items to give you a stat boost.

It's not like preordering a physical game, where at least I get an art book or something in exchange for handing my money over.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Do I pay full price for games before they are available to play and are most likely not going to be finished upon release? No.

Preordering anything with no real or artificial scarcity doesn’t really make financial sense. It’s a predatory sales tactic to get people to part with their money sooner, in this case before customers have a chance to use software that is pretty much unreturnable. Gaming publishers love digital preorders because some customers end up paying full price for games they don’t even like and can’t even resell.

Sadly, for at least the last ten years or more, most non-online games are best played a few years after release date when they’ve had their bugs fixed or their ‘complete edition’ released.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No reason to. A while back, some publishers gave 10% off pre orders, I bought maybe one or two like that. Some do digital goodies which doesn't entice me at all (I'm DLC proof). I can download anything fast enough. So why would I pre order?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

No.
My backlog is so big and my interested in gaming became so little I prefer watching YT or stuff on my Jellyfin server.
I wanted to play Helldivers 2 but decided against it because I had nobody else and now it's kinda in late-progress I won't even bother.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (3 children)

No. I'm doing the opposite.

I'm currently playing PS4 games I have never played before.

You get them on ebay for like $10.

Can't wait to play PS5 games in 5 years... 🙃

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Never because I'm cheap and also I don't want to pay a premium for a buggy unoptimized experience. Even when I had the game pass trial I didn't play games day 1, since games needed several patches to be acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 days ago

Never preorder.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Not counting Kickstarter projects, which I rarely back anymore, no. I'll wait for reviews and probably a sale.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Almost never. The last one I digitally pre-ordered was Borderlands 3, and given how that turned out, I think I might buy BL4 on release day, if not a few weeks later

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What's the difference between doing your way and maybe wait a day or 2 until gameplay is published?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well I mean my way is waiting until gameplay is published, as well as making sure the story isn't ass. I'm gonna let my coplayer decide if he wants to get it day one, but I imagine he'll hold out for a bit

Wrt BL3, we were gonna buy that on release anyway because we'd done the same for every other entry and DLC since the day BL2 came out. If we'd waited a few weeks, the only difference would be that we're prepared for the story to be ass

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Makes sense.
Though I wouldnt pre-order anyway just to not count against the pre-order metric.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I've pre-ordered games due to hype a few times and every time I do I get shafted and dev runs with my money. Now I stick to promising EAs. If I pay 20-30 bucks for EA, get some fun out of it and then dev runs at least I got some fun out of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I do preorder digital games but not just anything I’m excited about. It has to come from a single dev or small dev team that I specifically want to support, and help fund their progress. In this example, I’d preorder Haunted Chocolatier by ConceredApe (dev behind Stardew Valley).

OR, if the game is made by studio with a stellar track record or an absolutely phenomenal game. These more rare but their are a few. These also need to treat their dev team and customers well. No crunch. No shady micro-transactions.

For example, Hades 2 is something I would consider preordering. The next game by Larian Studios might also be on that list.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Spot on. Larian, fromsoftware, supergiant and concerned ape are some of the few where i would preorder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Does steam let you pre install? Only reason I can think of and I have never done it

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I get lost in the hype and I do, last one was armored core and cyberpunk before that

I will say this, the hype is also entertainment and I had more fun with the buildup to cyberpunk than with the game itself and I'm glad I experienced it all, steam servers crashing was wild

The real cyberpunk was the friends we made along the way unironically

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I read so much about the lore of cyberpunk before the release just to be met with a boring mess.

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