The pilot was fine. It was the fact they were rejecting qualified air traffic controllers because of their race when they were understaffed that was the issue. I can dig up the links if y'all want.
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Seems it was her fault though. She said she had the CRJ in sight, but was obviously looking at a different aircraft.
Here's the Pilot Debrief video on it.
The point is anybody could have missed seeing that plane. It's not even certain they had an angle that allowed them to see it. And what about the plane pilots? Her helicopter was 100 feet high but there was supposed to be 200 feet of separation between the ceiling and floor of the respective paths. Ergo, the plane was 100 feet low.
It was a stupidly difficult situation for both crews and that's why they've indefinitely closed the helicopter path.
I’m not confident in the altitudes yet. Maybe you have better data, but everything I’ve seen indicating those values is based on GPS, which is not always very accurate. I suspect we’ll know more soon but I don’t know that we’ll ever have the full story about if PAT25 had the wrong CRJ visual or what.
Yeah, my main point is that blaming just one person for this entire tragedy requires ignoring a lot of other factors.
The helicopter confirmed visual. Plane pilots were on the approach with clearance to land. Controller gave the helicopter the CRJ's height and vector. They knew we're to look to see it.
And it's still not that easy.
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They didn't make that DEI accusation because they expected it to be true, so the fact that it's so patemtly false doesn't matter.
They made the accusation just because they're hateful, bigoted pieces of shit trying to appeal to other hateful, bigoted pieces of shit.
Truth means nothing. Hate and greed are the only things that matter to them.
Yeah, if she weren't allowed to be in the military and instead was at home making babies (like a real woman), there would've been an objectively worse male pilot instead and wouldn't have been allowed to fly. Thus preventing the tragedy. Won't someone think of the children?
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It’s sleight of hand. Distract people with some baseless accusation that’ll go nowhere, while hiding the true disaster of bad policy making. They’ve been doing this for years.
Exactly! And disputing it in this way just adds credence to the argument. Failing to rejection the premicr wholesale gives tacit approval that sometimes it might be the case, and sets us up to keep having to respond like this, rather than saying any argument centered on DEI is bullshit.
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I hope nobody expects him to learn anything. This will actually just reinforce his anti-DEI beliefs. He'll blame the crash on the fact that the pilot was a woman, use that as proof that "DEI is making our military weaker", and then start issuing executive orders banning women from piloting or even doing anything noteworthy in the military at all. Because doubling down on the stupid is what Trump does. It's all he does. God help us if that woman was even 1% non-white.
This must be the first president in the history of this country to display this much callousness towards innocent victims of a terrible accident and get away with it.
If this was the only thing to talk about, for a few weeks (like in a normal presidency), it would be a 10% drop in approval rating at least.
But we've got the DOD, HHS, CDC, OPM, Treasury, and DOJ all being dismantled, looted, or turning into autocratic institutions.
The magic of Trump's flooding the zone is that there is a finite amount of attention we have and that a week or two is all it takes to lose urgency on any issue. Not only is it impossible for us to respond to this because of all the other things, this distraction helps make it similarly impossible to respond to the rest.
I held a slim hope this fascist creep would take long enough that opposition could be organized. Nope, Project 2025 absolutely thought this through.
I mean Reagan gave medals to the guys who shot down an Iranian passenger jet and eulogized the nun-raping Contras. But yeah, it's unusual for the president to display such callousness, they usually have the common sense to pretend to care, after making decisions that end the lives of hundreds of thousands to millions of children.
He gets away with everything.
Everything.
Also the first (and second) republican president to shit on the military.
And the first president to advocate a complete gun ban.
That didn't go away either. Fascist aren't too keen on personal weapon ownership.
And veterans
And disabled people
And women
...
I still can't fathom by which feat of mass idiocy a man who showed that much disrespect to that many sections of the population won the election...
beCAusE hE tEllS iT lIkE it iS
Basically his voter base hates everyone like he does.
The military is important to note because GOP is the “pro military” party.
That’s why they hate veterans. They are only pro military. Veterans don’t contribute to the war machine anymore. They have no purpose unless they use their veteran status to recruit fresh meat for the war machine
Trump just said the quiet part out loud. They never had respect for veterans. Republicans have always been screwing over veterans
Yeah but MAGA isn't the GOP. The old GOP, for all its faults, and however much I disagreed with it, was a respectable party with true values. MAGA is a crass personality cult that venerates ignorance, mediocrity, hatred and violence. Very much like... well, the NSDAP.
MAGA sure seem like a direct continuation and very minor evolution of the character of GOP I’ve witnessed in my lifetime.
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The next four years of American politics will be bankrolls of precedence for callousness and getting away with it. Please welcome Neo-America to the stage.
Stop talking as though this will go away in 4 years with an election. This is the US for the foreseeable future. No dictator has ever been removed from power through an election. You can't vote him away. The only thing that will change this is resistance, protest, and revolution.
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That is what he was voted in to do. Be a bully to everyone the worst of us dislike.
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