We have plenty of alternatives like Mistral, Gemini, qwen, deepseek...
But none of them is fully open source that you know data they've been trained with, right? Maybe only K2 ?
this post was submitted on 01 Feb 2025
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Well, if openai open sources all their models, what value is there left that is unique to openai? Training data? But that is only valuable if they invent a better way to make it into an "AI".
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It grinds my gears that someone who can't be fucked with capitalization has that much money and power. I get that using the shift key occasionally is an inconvenience but we do it to help the readers. A conversation is give and take.
Like all techbros it is an affectation to cultivate a certain sort of appearance. A type of mad faux intellectualism.
You literally have to be a tryhard to do all lowecase on a phone, for example.
i've disabled auto caps on my phone :o
i generally type in all lower case anyways because it appears more casual, at least to me. it's not exactly a rule i follow, so it's never consistent, and i don't mind capitalizing abbreviations and names and such anyways.
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Sorry for confusion guys - here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ieonxv/comment/maa0dcx/
Can someone ELI5? He's admitting it was never truly open? Or they were wrong for thinking open was good at all?
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OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.
My personal opinion is that closed AI systems are only good if the owners are trustworthy. And in the long-run, no single owner can be trusted. There are risks with letting everyone copy and customize AI, however the worse danger is that the power gets too centralized with one single company.
OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.
No, that was what OpenAI said its goals originally were. They were lying. They always intended for it to become a capitalist venture. Anyone who listens to Tech Won’t Save Us or This Machine Kills or Team Human have known all along. Or anyone like me who’s been in the industry for thirty years.
It's really disappointing as a huge fan of sci-fi myself. I know we won't get flying cars and stuff anytime soon, but technology in general is super cool. Humans are really ingenious.
And these corporate troglodytes had to go and ruin a good thing. I hope their balls explode.
I too have been in the industry for many a decade and I heartily concur. I do have many colleagues though that also have been in for many years, and those are still dedicated believers. Maybe their critical thinking has been eaten away by all the lead in soldering tin?
Can confirm, lead feasted.
That reminds me, I was temporarily blinded once from breathing in too much soldering fume.
Yikes
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Ah interesting - cheers for sharing!