The sort of Swiss neutrality that doesn't care whose teeth the gold is from.
this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2025
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It’s bad but still so much better than google.
Just when I'm done migrating all my email shit to Proton, the CEO turns out to be a nazi. A classic.
Signed up last month because I had something to protect. Looking into Tuta. Anyone know a comparable free vpn?
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Same. Considered getting a domain for my email, but ended up just switching directly to the protonmail domain. Regretting that now.
Getting your own domain is the best thing you can do, regardless of provider - it means they can't lock you in anymore.
I gotta get a personal domain just for email, I don't really want my personal life mixed in with our small business domain; both due to the nature of the products and because I don't want to dox myself on either side of the work/life gulf. It's a shame too, because I am actually proud of our garage business.
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#BigSame Friend.
I was looking at Tutanota for a bit. Guess I'm need to bust open that research again.
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Welp... Just paid them 80€ for a year and was in the process of migrating my gmail accounts to it. I guess I just lost 80€ and I'm migrating to somewhere else then...
You should be able to cancel and get a partial refund. Reach out and ask.
And also during that discussion with their support team, state your reason for leaving. That will get a lot more attention than the rest of us whinging online where we can easily be ignored.
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My renewal of proton VPN is entirely dependent on who the ceo is when it's time for me to renew.
If fuckface is still there, I'll move on.
I'm fickle that way.
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Yep, I moved to tuta the day Andy decided to out himself as a MAGA dipshit. The only way I’d go back is if he resigns or gets forced out. At the absolute minimum Andy Yen has shown extremely poor judgement in claiming Republicans are the party concerned with people’s digital rights. That tells me he fundamentally does not know what he’s talking about, and I do not trust Proton under his leadership anymore.
As a side note, If anyone’s looking for a VPN alternative, I highly recommend Mullvad.
What are your thoughts on Tuta so far?
It seems like a good alternative but I honestly haven’t used it enough over the last two weeks to feel comfortable recommending it to people yet. Sorry I can’t be more helpful, but there’s a free tier so there’s no downside in giving Tuta a shot for a bit.
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Been running my own domain from Tuta for about a year now. Had no issues so far.
If your goal is basic mail, with standard features, Tuta is great. The free option is more than enough for an anonymous email.
If you want to pay a little you can move your domain over and get a bunch more features.
If you appreciate a simple interface, Tuta will be perfect. They have apps for desktops and phones as well as web.
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Commenting so I can come back to this because hell if I'm going to remember to check it if I just save the comment.
Thank you for your assistance on the matter.
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"If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality."
-Desmond Tutu
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Good news for them, I’m “financially neutral”
Swiss company says "Nazi's aren't so bad."
The more things change the more they stay the same.
When they say they're "neutral" lets not forget what "neutral" meant during World War II. It meant making a fucking shitload of money at the expense of the rest of Europe.
Also, the geography of Switzerland is how they were able to convince Germany to not invade. A few US Nukes dropped from the sky make their geography a moot fucking point this time around.
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Protrump Mail?
Yeah this is a masks off moment for them and people better be paying attention!
I was considering signing up, any alternatives?
I've tried Proton mail and couldn't get comfortable with their UI. Have been on Fastmail for two years now and it's been excellent.
I tried proton and I couldn't get into using their service since it kept asking for personal information. I ended up not using it.
I'm back with Fastmail too, after having quit to go with Proton a while back. I never ran into a single email where the recipient was encrypted, so I've come to see the whole encrypted email shtick as mostly marketing.
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I went with mailbox.org for mail, contacts, calendar. Keepass+syncthing for passwords. Still looking for VPN and file storage. I've been trying out nextcloud but there is a learning curve to host your own.
Mullvad is great for vpn.
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I'm curious, too. It was the only decent free vpn.
Edit: Why downvote?
For VPN there's mullvad, for email there's posteo, for storage I recommend signing up with disroot, for password storage I'd recommend KeePass or BitWarden/VaultWarden depending on your threat models and needs
The real pain is going to be having those services split up so much.
Proton was really convenient for packaging those in a really convenient way.
Guess there's a business opportunity here?
For a bundle I'd probably say look at disroot.org
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