i find it oddly strange people from instances like .zip downvote this post @[email protected] , generally i think the zip stance is acceptable of people of all minorities (AFAIK? but Sami is an admin from .zip so.. weird stance to take) which dbzer0 instance would be too then theres some oddities users one downvoted too @[email protected] some people here really in disguise "secretly" downvoting posts a fascist/bigot bootlicker would
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You're engaging in bad faith just like the post itself is doing.
im open to your critic but just calling it bad faith and not elaborating more on why you think so is also bad faith
Sure, framing it as mandatory wholesale support for x,y,z is disengenuous the same way it would be to call someone who is not vehemently against the United States as a concept in its entirety a bigot due to their current persecution of racial and LGBT minorities. Multiple things can be true at once but when you zero in on specific injustices that nearly the entire world exhibited just 2 decades ago and apply the same standard to people experiencing very different conditions (for example, people who have only known conflict for their entire lives and have not had the same opportunities that rich, safe countries have had) then it comes off as dishonest or at the very least just very myopic and ill informed. Should those injustices be criticized: yes. Are the people pointing out the perceived hypocracy doing it because they genuinely care about LGBT people impacted in those countries: no. I don't agree with all perspectives expressed in the other direction but I understand why they exist when we exist in a space where certain people are painted with broad strokes while others are afforded infinite nuance in their positions.
fair points i may have misjudged you, my apologies
That's because tankies don't operate on politics, like, they don't go out to make political movement or action. To them, it's theatre, and the more dramatic you can be, the more powerful you look.
It's all about being as oppressed as you can be. It's to make up for their feelings of guilt and shame being rich and lazy
hamas famously known to be a long time supporter of LGBTQ+
Israel just murder a hundred innocent trans people. They bombed a prison in Tehran, including a wing that housed the regime's trans prisoners. They dropped a massive precision bomb right on top of the trans wing and murdered a hundred innocent trans prisoners. I can't recall Hamas ever doing something like that to trans folks.
Fuck state of Israel, fuck Hamas. To think that a fundamentally islamic group would be ok with LGBTQ+ people rights is simply delusional though.
Why do you think that then?
Coming from a much more mildly religious context (compared to Hamas), I know how the majority of religious people feel about this issue. My perspective on the topic is if they are not oppressing them now, they sure will later especially if they come to power.
they did it twice
When?
Hexbear are a bunch of transwashing chuds.
Lol some top comments from their struggle thread following this one:
Stupid fucking ass moron liberals can't fathom having multiple different priorities, and in this case holding internationalism and socialism through anti-imperialism as a priority above sexuality or gender-identity.
I actually think they CAN comprehend it because they all hold nationalism above these things anyway. Gender-identity and sexuality to them are deprioritised when it comes to America's strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia for example, why? Because they are nationalists that place their nationalism and supremacy above that of these issues.
The good old "well, they're muslim so they have to be as bad as the Taliban/ISIS and completely indistinguishable. I won't look into this at all." thing. Israel's policies are in line with many of these nations on LGBTQ, with exceptions only to pink-wash their genocidal ethno-state.
LMAO I got 4 comments deep in their thread before I bailed from the radioactive dumbassery. First one accused me of masturbating while writing this post (WTF?!), second accused me of supporting bombing those countries (I don't), third was defending non-voters (Because Trump loves LGBT, Iran, and Palestine, right guys?) and the fourth said Iran has better trans healthcare than the US ( Hmmm... Wonder what that could be about...)
I usually just lurk blahaj occaisionally but your post annoyed me enough to post for the first time in 2 years
From their thread:
https://hexbear.net/post/5521160
Most places in the world are fairly equally shit for trans people. If a place is doing well, it is often hard for trans people still. If a place is in war and in famine, downgrade those conditions a step as you would if it were somewhere nice and calm.
And Iran isn't even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three. Iran's major cities are very modern and even look nicer to live in than many American ones.
Cost of living is very important to trans people, as we are often making less due to discrimination. Every trans person I've talked to in China has mentioned the discrimination and some unusual cultural quirks, but they've also mentioned they've not met a single homeless trans person. For the record, it's very easy to find homeless trans people in America, you can find some on hexbear even in our mutual aid comm. And despite the discrimination, these Chinese trans people have cheap housing in the downtown of major cities
And Iran isn’t even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three.
Do they... do they realize this is because the death penalty for gay folks means that many opt for transitioning into a gender they don't identify with over death?
but they’ve also mentioned they’ve not met a single homeless trans person.
Oh good, shipping homeless people out of sight and out of mind has worked then, glory to the People's Republic of China!
Really? Right in front of my blahaj.zone?
I'm pretty sure if someone posts something transphobic, ada personally hunts them down and shoots them with a rifle.
is that what she did when drag was telling trans folk to kill themselves?
Or denies the existence of dragons.
My understanding is that the majority of them want to see America fall (for good reason IMO, we're just billionaire slaves) so they vocally support the opposition to America. They understand the terrible aspects of some of those countries, but given we live in a western propaganda machine that covers those issues readily they focus on pointing out Americas hypocrisy and highlighting all the issues that our propaganda agencys (news) ignore and sweep under the rug.
You'd be better of asking In an instance that isn't defederated from them (like mine), I assume yours is defederated since nobody from hexbear is here yet.
Yeah but then they go and stay stupid shit like "censorship is a good thing". So it's kind of hard to understand the Tankie mind when they literally support oppression. Westerners may be brainwashed by propaganda but at least not all of them are authoritarian bootlickers.
This is MeanwhileOnGrad you're writing in.
Some of them actively Stan for the authoritarian regimes and deny their atrocities, even when there is concrete proof. Even when it’s obvious who is in the wrong.
Others are just pointing out why other countries respond negatively to the United States’ actions.
They are not the same.
How hard is it to say you sympathize with the innocent civilians and agree all their warmongering leaders should be killed?
"b-b-but those dead children were homophobic, you biggot" - Hexbear mod, probably
mandatory support of Hamas
Are you conflating the support of a nation with the support of a state that exercises control over that nation?
We aren't, but hexbear seems to.
Hm. Alright.
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