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It's baffling to me that hexbear claims to be the most trans-positive space online while also having mandatory support of Hamas, the Houthis, Russia, Iran, etc. as a core part of the site culture (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I know that there are a lot of trans people on hexbear, and I know their beliefs are sincere. What I don't understand is how they square the fact that they would be brutally suppressed, raped, tortured, murdered by the very groups/governments they unwaveringly love and support. It sickens me. Is it a manifestation of self-hatred? I just don't get why they would degrade themselves like this.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I usually just lurk blahaj occaisionally but your post annoyed me enough to post for the first time in 2 years

From their thread:

https://hexbear.net/post/5521160

Most places in the world are fairly equally shit for trans people. If a place is doing well, it is often hard for trans people still. If a place is in war and in famine, downgrade those conditions a step as you would if it were somewhere nice and calm.

And Iran isn't even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three. Iran's major cities are very modern and even look nicer to live in than many American ones.

Cost of living is very important to trans people, as we are often making less due to discrimination. Every trans person I've talked to in China has mentioned the discrimination and some unusual cultural quirks, but they've also mentioned they've not met a single homeless trans person. For the record, it's very easy to find homeless trans people in America, you can find some on hexbear even in our mutual aid comm. And despite the discrimination, these Chinese trans people have cheap housing in the downtown of major cities

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

And Iran isn’t even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three.

Do they... do they realize this is because the death penalty for gay folks means that many opt for transitioning into a gender they don't identify with over death?

but they’ve also mentioned they’ve not met a single homeless trans person.

Oh good, shipping homeless people out of sight and out of mind has worked then, glory to the People's Republic of China!