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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I think it is so sad because It is end of the nice era.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm one of like 5 people on the planet who still uses his minidisc player. I've bought some of the blank minidiscs Sony was still making. Seeing them finally end production hurts. I have a bunch of minidiscs already, but I feel like I should stock up before prices go nuts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I had a minidisc for years. Quickly got replaced by chip based MP3 players.

I still liked my discs because I could swap and play more music.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I had a minidisc stereo in like, idk, 1998? That was an awesome piece of tech.

It was the physical mp3

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is only for recordable BD-Rs, Blu-ray movies will not be affected.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a media that contains what a USB drive does. That's great for one movie, not really as a slow data storage device.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They should invent a USB drive in the form factor of a DVD

Since it rotates so fast, the bits would get pushed out much quicker!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trouble is that pushing the bytes on will be really difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

That's why you stop rotating before writing, obviously

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So it is one option less to store data long term and inaccessible to covert internet surviallance, but only the plebs are restricted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Optical media is not long term. Hurry up to backup your DVD videos and games, before you can't anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Recordable media isn't. Factory pressed media if stored correctly should outlast the person who bought it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Should. Real is about 20 years even for big libraries. I've seen bad DVD (plastic gone dull) in the library of ETHZ.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

using optical media for long term storage is quite a bad idea. Especially R/RW media. They tend to (although not always) degrade quite quickly

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are a few optical storage mediums designed for long term archival storage. Like M-Disc or (as mentioned in the article) pioneers DM for Archive, both of which are still commercially available.

And provided they're stored properly, even more general consumer oriented optical media can easily last a few decades. Granted the environmental aspect of "proper storage" (<50% relative humidity, constant temp <80F and >50F) can be difficult to achieve at home in a lot of regions, but generally banks and credit unions have an option to get a safety deposit box which is generally in an environmentally controlled room. Other than that just store your media in an opaque single disc case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Even the bank safes are useless in hot and humid cities if you want to preserve anything for say 10 to 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I wa going to suggest tape drives for long term archiving, but after looking, holy shit are they expensive for some reason. I've used them at work but I guess I've never actually seen the price tag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

They used to be affordable. Nah ... they used to be cheap.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't even know what to say about this mess, but yes: that's enterprise pricing. It doesn't need to be that way, but it can be because those are the kind of prices you can charge businesses. And really, just as a pleasant capitalistic side effect of this, is that the lower classes are completely locked off form this technology. It's not a mystery, it's not a conspiracy, it's business. And I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yup, when you have a captive customer base, you have a lot of flexibility on pricing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Tape is still the cheapest option for mass amounts of storage since the actual tapes are so cheap. You just need to store enough data to offset the cost of the drive. Drive cost increases very quickly the higher you go in storage density.