Off topic, but downvotes are not always an indication that a comment is of low quality.
this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2025
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I welcome them, honestly... Lemmy is emphatically too far left. For fucks sake, two of the top three instances are nearly all tankies.
We need diversity in here if we want to understand what's going on. The conservatives braving Lemmy honestly could be people seeking answers, too.
Some will be propagandists, but so are a lot of clowns on the far-left that lurk here.
Conservatism is something to be healed in the brain and in the body, not conquered, fought against, or included as part of a skewed notion of balance. Same with authoritarianism, regardless of where on a left-right spectrum it is. Anything telling you to get fucked and fend for yourself, or bow down, is a corrosive thing that simply destroys things it touches.
Any opinion that isn't poisoned by either one is a welcome addition to the table.
Fuck no.
The world needs less of their voice, not more of it.
What we need is less centrist fucks who want to 'just give them a chance'.
I've never wanted to engage these people, but after Trump stripped the security from Fauci and Bolton and Pompeo, I have a morbid curiosity to see how'd they justify it. I mean, really, how do you defend stripping protection from your political opponents, who you know are being targeted by extremists, with no real justification or even reasoning beyong them being political opponents?
Don't bother looking for justifications. They are infinite, because they are not honest. If their side does it, they're in favor of it, no matter what they do.
It's best to point out that this is what's going on, that many others don't do this, and after people read your comment, they're left seeing the truth of the soulless, valuelessness of that behavior. It'll make people slightly less likely to do it each time this repeats.
By saying it's "wasting unnecessary" tax dollars. I saw a comment that said he should be able to afford his own security because "we the tax payers fund his 300k yearly retirement". Meanwhile the fat cats are laughing all the way to the bank as this guy fights for a literal crumb of a crumb 🙄
Yeah, that does seem to be the tenor of it.
It might make me a terrible person, but I hate Trump more for how stupid everything he does is than how evil it is. Every step of the war he hurts us, econimically, diplomatically, bureaucratically. Even if he doesn't try an ethnic cleansing and self-coup, the damage he has done to democratic institutions, professional government and our place in the world is something none of us will live to see America recover from.
For an hour today I had to listen to a conservative talk radio host keep repeating that if anyone in Europe said there were only 2 genders that the "stormtroopers" would be knocking on their door the next day. Over and over again trying to drill it into people's heads that this happens somewhere. It only happens in their fantasies, the fantasies they are trying to normalize because they want people to think it is normal when they start knocking on peoples doors for having any freedom of speech or expression. (And then I remembered that Desantis ordered just this when people signed a petition to get something voted on)
Fucking exhausting listening to the wack shit they say.
Users can have upvotes and downvotes disabled in settings so they are never see how many vote up or down.
In my mobile client I don't see down votes and I like it that way. Today I logged in on my desktop and saw them. So I went through my comment history laughing for a while. I think I was down voted the most when I had something negative to say about neoliberals.
I am unbothered being down voted and think generally that the whole upvote tally can lead to groupthink in general. Being able to disable viewing them is a good design choice that could be made better being site | instance wide.
As a social experiment I wonder how much we have become accustomed to internet points as a form of self validation. If a large whole instance was segregated for a month or two and had disabled the voting tally, what would the engagement look like? Is it all ego driven?
I like that lemmy lets you see the upvotes and downvotes separately rather than just an aggregate like Reddit has. It's hard to tell when you see something has 1 or zero votes what people generally think but it might turn out that you have 100 upvotes and 100 downvotes and it just happens to add up to zero but you hit on something that's actually deeply controversial. That info is nice to have.
That is a good argument. It was nice to see that some of my comments were not universally liked and that some kind of broke even.
Totally agree with you in relation to groupthink and it's the main reason I have them disabled too. I don't like my opinion of a comment to be influenced by others before I've even finished reading it.
They absolutely are incapable of believing they are wrong at all. Every solution that includes them being correct or in the right are the only viable ones and everything else is a trick, or a lie, or "buzzword here". They are conspiracy theorists and suffer the same deep logical failings.
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