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When Alabama's Supreme Court defined frozen embryos as children, the shock and confusion was immediate. Major hospitals pulled fertility services and would-be parents scrambled for clarity on what would happen next.

The debate over reproductive rights in America has long been driven, in part, by opposition to abortion from Christian groups - but this ruling has divided that movement and ignited debate about the role of theology in US lawmaking.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Can I just ask why more babies being born is seen as a moral good? I'm dumbfounded because I've honestly never in fifty years heard this talking point before.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (6 children)

A bunch of white people in the united states are worried about birth rates because immigrant birth rates are high whereas white birth rates are on the decline. They're worried about white people becoming a minority because even though if you asked them they would say no, they know that minorities are treated poorly here.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Yep. It's called "replacement theory" and it's a core belief among racist organizations like Nazis, the Aryan nation and the KKK. It's also talked about constantly on Fox News and other right wing media.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I wish everyone would just fuck everyone once and for all so we're all the same god damned race.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Because a man in a book said something about going forth and multiplying

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's really this simple. The bible says "Be fruitful and multiply"

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When the line "be fruitful and multiply" was first written there were fewer humans on the planet than now live in Houston.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Leopard's are feasting on faces rn.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What they could go after next:

  • Same sex marriage
  • Gay sex
  • Porn
  • Contraception
  • Vasectomy
  • Divorce
  • Interracial marriage
[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

What they ~~could~~ will go after next:

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

It will balance itself out with all the unwanted babies once contraceptives and abortion are banned, and rape is decriminalized.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Gotta Love an argument about what god would want while people suffer.

Feel sorry for those caught up in this and I hope some have a light bulb moment.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Yesterday's Last Week Tonight showed Tommy Tubervile making that realization in real time. It was pretty incredible.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"I think the biggest concerns are that people elsewhere forget about us and they think, 'Oh they're just the conservative state, and they're all country bumpkins. Don't worry it will never happen here.'

"And the next thing you know, it is happening in other states that are ultra-conservative."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a progressive in Texas...fuckin YEAH. Some of us are trying to bring reality back and it's really annoying to get lumped in with the crazies.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So Alabama's supreme court can rule on mere belief?

[–] [email protected] 104 points 8 months ago (5 children)

“Even before birth, all human beings have the image of God, and their lives cannot be destroyed without effacing his glory,” Chief Justice Tom Parker wrote.

That's how it looks to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I would love to know what this so called justice official's stance is on the Death Penalty; for or against.

I will look it up later as I am being lazy at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I boggles the mind, this image of god nonsense. If we are made in gods image then gods image also includes Meth addicts and sexual offenders? God must be one crazy bugger.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

God must be one crazy bugger

You've seen a platypus, right?

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Seems like the whole thing is in direct contradiction with the establishment clause.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

If only SCOTUS didn't have a right-wing religious majority...

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago

It seems clear at this point they no longer care about the law or precedent or tradition, they just want to punish and subjugate people they don't like.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately any theology shouldn’t impact lawmaking.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The only part of your comment that I disagree with is "unfortunately".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Fair, my comment was related to the post stating what role theology should play in legislation.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

That statement is rather ambiguous as it could be read to mean it's unfortunate that theology can't impact lawmaking, or that it's unfortunate that theology is impacting lawmaking. Theology shouldn't impact lawmaking and the fact that it is is the problem. Republicans have been steadily chipping away at separation of church and state for decades now and we're seeing the impact.

Any hint that a lawmaker is letting religious beliefs dictate their legislation should be an automatic disqualification from office. Politicians shouldn't even be allowed to mention their religion while campaigning. Instead it's becoming de rigueur for politicians to affirm their faith on a regular basis, and we regularly have politicians citing religious beliefs in debates about legislation.

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