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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

At the last election, the tory party changed their twitter account display-name and profile-picture to pretend to be the "Fact Check UK" account. They have no integrity. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/19/tories-tweet-anti-labour-posts-under-factcheckuk-brand

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Being it on.

The deep fakes can't be any worse than the melts that are currently fcuking it up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

ah, setting up the excuse already

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The election may be rigged? More like it's an absolute certainty that it will be rigged.

It's ridiculous that James Cleverley is implying that "hostile countries" will be the only ones who may try to influence an election using AI.

During the AI Safety Summit which occured in the UK last November, a Frontier AI: capabilities and risks discussion paper was produced. This paper references How AI will transform the 2024 elections by Darrell M. West, which has the following quote:

AI likely will democratize disinformation by bringing sophisticated tools to the average person interested in promoting their preferred candidates as well. People no longer must be coding experts or video wizards to generate text, images, video, or programs. They don’t necessarily have to work for a troll farm to create havoc with the opposition. They can simply use advanced technologies to spread the messages they want. In that sense, anyone can become a political content creator and seek to sway voters or the media.

There will be plenty of people living within the UK who will be making efforts to rig the election in their favour. The tools to produce convincing disinformation is in the hands of everyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Blimey, Cleverly really is trying to lay the ground work, isn't he, it's not 13 years of Torry mis-management at all is it - it's those foreign actors. Do they send the boats, too????? /s

There's a difference between disinformation and "rigging an election"; disinformation will increase with AI, but most of the UK are not dependent on Social Media for information - and GBNews and TalkTV are dead in the water -"PopCons" are popular 'in name only'!

When even Jacob Reece-Mogg is starting to think FPTP doesn't work "the end is nigh" - and, bloody hell, they are scared, aren't they!

AI deepfakes? - Bring it on! We'll laugh at them in a very British way - with a bit of luck it'll be as funny as Python or Blackadder, or possibly Spitting Image!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

There's a difference between disinformation and "rigging an election".

Ah yes you're right. Perhaps I misinterpreted the original article. Since the focus was on deepfakes my assumption was that by "rigged" they were referring to "influencing an election by spreading disinformation".

It will be very funny and cringe if the Tories blame their election loss on AI and not the... gestures broadly to everything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean... Cassetteboy was a form of deepfaking. Yes, obvious; Yes, Satire; but it still got an image of Johnson or May in your head, saying (singing) something that they didn't say.

If anyone uses this as an excuse to question the validity of elections, they need to be ashamed of themselves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Cassetteboy wasn't really a form of deepfaking, he took clips of them literally saying the words and then pitch adjusted them, that's all.

Deepfaking is much more involved, and in terms of audio you typically need a voice actor to make a convincing enough copy. People seem to find it harder to recognise AI images than AI sounds.

Trey Parker did a great video on deepfakes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh yes that's right the Tories won't lose because of any of their behaviors over the last 15 years, no it's 100% because of this evil AI.

Nothing is ever their fault is it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The AI made them do it!!

The computer in the Number 10 basement, Thatchbot 4000, knows the nuclear launch codes, so they have to do as it says...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Given our current showing I'm not sure nuclear threat is really an issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't really seem like a new problem. It wasn't so long ago that most news was disseminated in text form which has been easily faked forever. The solution should be improving the ways of verifying the information we receive. I guess the main difference now is most people would see a video on social media and believe it. 20-25 years ago I was taught not to believe everything you read online and that hasn't changed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

There's a big difference between reading an article claiming a politician did something, and watching video that (appearers to) shows a politician doing something. That's the danger with deepfakes, that they will reach the point where direct audio-visual sources can no longer be trusted.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

and the media gobble it up. .

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Whilst I don't doubt we'll see this sort of thing, I don't think it's gonna have much to do with the Tories inevitable defeat in the coming election.

That said, it's definitely something we're going to have to figure out in the coming years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We can't rest on our laurels regarding tory defeat. I mean I can, I'm in one of the safest Labour seats in the country, but as a nation...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think there's gonna be a landslide or anything, but I don't think they've got a hope in hell of being the largest party in 2025.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I really hope you're right

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

This will be used to implement even more authoritarian internet and tech laws as always.

Also are the Tories going to pull a GOP-style fake election accusation when they're voted out?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If they're using it for bad, fair game to use it for good with some AI deepfakes too. I wonder if we'll see a paparazzi style video of Bibi eating a pork chop soon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What has the Israeli PM got to do with UK elections?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Weird, I don't think I mentioned the UK in my comment. While I'm sure the Israeli PM has quite a bit to do with UK elections, it wasnt mentioned in the article.

I was speaking about AI being used for immoral political discourse, which is what the article speaks to, and extrapolated the concept to other areas it in can have an arguably positive impact.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's a UK community. I assumed you were relating it to the UK somehow.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your UK community ended up on the front page of someone outside the UK, it's a risk you take when discussing things that others are participating that aren't a part of you society.

Gives you something to think about anyway, depending on the context.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

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