Having now checked conservative spaces, it’s 30% “are we the baddies?” 30% “it was probably taken out of context” 30% “ugh” and 10% “based”
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Regardless of whether the South Africa-born Musk intended the salute as a “Sieg Heil” salute favored by the followers of Adolf Hitler in World War II, as some online commentators have suggested, it was eagerly received that way by extremists online.
Yeeeah. If your target group is also calling it for what it is, it is obviously a fucking nazi salute.
The press is just going to roll over on this episode too. Spineless cowards.
FInAlLy tHe EnD oF wOkIsMn!1
It takes them until the ~~third~~ edit: miscount, fourth paragraph to even connect it to Nazi Germany. “Straight arm salute” and “Roman salute” and not a single use of the term “Nazi salute”, is this a fucking joke?
Nazi Salute = Roman Salute It's like saying you were using a Hindu (or whatever, I'm not a religious scholar) swastika.
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is this a fucking joke?
It's fucking fear of retaliation if they call it what it is.
Gotta be honest, I’m feeling real “then perish” about it when this is literally the function of the fourth estate and these news companies are probably one of the best poised, financially and legally, to actually do something other than bend the knee.
Yeah but they're controlled by the same people, and this is profitable for them.
This is why orgs like ProPublica, Assigned Media, etc are such a gift.
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This dude manages to make his declarative nazi salute at the presidential inauguration and the world is watching look like he is a ten year old trying his best to be edgy in school assembly. How is it possible to be a central character in the midst of evil and be so fucking cringe?
I feel like this opinion piece from last week really captures his essence
For real
How is it possible to be a central character in the midst of evil and be so fucking cringe?
The Edgelord of Cringe
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The original Nazis were like that too, though -- massive dorks.
They don't actually believe in anything, so they can actually be made to believe anything.
This trope was actually played up in a handful of Wolfenstein games, most notably Return to Castle Wolfenstein in 2001.
At least they dressed sharply thanks to Hugo Boss. The MAGA movement looks like a bunch of tramps - chief of which being Steve Bannon.
You'd think the richest guy in the world could afford a decent fucking suit and a remotely passable haircut.
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It's cuz they're all fat from mcdonalds
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This is living history at its finest: you can experience 1933 Germany like you were there!
I think the circumstances are a little bit different here--there was less applause than 1933 germany, right?
Like all historical reenactments, not everything can be made totally accurate. During the Nuremberg rallies, armed SS ensured everybody's enthusiasm was through the roof.
The video is even worse
A guy a discord server I’m on keeps trying to play the “well it’s not totally a nazi salute” card, and it’s like…then what is it?
It’s not a wave. Not a single human on earth waves that way. No one waves by slapping their chest then throwing their arm out rigid into a point.
And him being “weird” doesn’t give him an excuse.
I mean, not to mention that he recently praised German far right groups. You don't get the benefit of the doubt about a Nazi salute a week after you praise nazis
Defending it reminds me so much of conversations you'd hear in random discord servers..
Oh yeah I posted a swashtika... but really my intended meaning was the symbol of peace that was used around the world for thousands of years prior to the 1930s, and is still viewed as peaceful in countries that weren't effected by WW2. (Umm... no you made it knowing exactly what's popping into the minds of 95% of people you are using it).
Also would find when they'd put character names as say some random athlete or singer or something from a small country that has an N word in the name. Again dude, we know you specifically chose that name with the exact knowledge of what people think of when they see the name. Not because you think that this group is full of people who pay attention to random b list celebrities from countries that don't have a lot of english speakers.
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Been getting mixed reception with the Bellamy Salute ... probably because this is fucking serious.
RIP America, seems to be the way most republics end isn't it.
Been getting mixed reception with the Bellamy Salute … probably because this is fucking serious.
Even IF we were to give him the benefit of the doubt, the Bellamy Salute was abandoned specifically because of the Nazi use of a similar salute. AND that salute is older than Musk, so there's no history to claim there. Combined with his recent public praise and support of the far-right parties in Germany specifically, it really leads to one conclusion.
Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt despite all of that, and maybe claim that he's trying to "take back" a previous American flag salute to make it American again... it reminds me of the this scene from Clerks 2 (NSFW - language). Elon is most definitely not the person that can bring that salute back.
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He's sending his heart and love out to the masses /s
He’s sending his heart
He lacks the anatomy.
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Yeah it's quite chilling...
... the future of civilization is assured.
That, combined with the salute, is bringing to mind all the worst things.
It's not like it takes a very high IQ to have seen this coming for months. And I bet the magats still don't see it.
I bet some of them do.
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