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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

I think he was practicing it in the mirror, too. There is no way that this is a coincidence or a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, claims are already going around that this is just must being clumsy

You don't clumsily accidentally make a Hitler salute, especially after cosying up with far right politicians that love what Hitler did.

There must be consequences for this. Anyone who is not a neo nazi should stop doing anything with any of the products from musk. You work at Tesla? Congratulations, you work at a neo nazi factory, you might want to reconsider your career future. Same goes for those at SpaceX; do you really want to be that guy who, ten years from now, has on their record that they worked at the neonazi rockets company?

People should leave Twitter in droves now, and so should companies. They should all stop buying Tesla shit, sell their Tesla stock, and get with the normal folks.

Fuck musk, let there for once be real consequences that he'll at least feel in his wallet.

I am legit worried about him so brazenly display his fascist tendencies. If this goes anywhere how it went 80 years ago, and I fear it may very well be, then at the end of it, let's please make sure we get rid of the Nazi scour forever.

I grew up with "never again never forget" and within a decade that went to "well this is cool man!" Clearly we didn't do enough to teach people and we've been way, WAY too lenient with those that love fascism

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Not odd at all. Very specific in fact.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Magas are apparently explaining this with

“PBS News, which is publicly funded, is spreading propaganda that Elon Musk made a ‘fascist salute’ during his speech at Capital One Arena,” the post said. “Their own video clearly shows that he was motioning ‘my heart goes out to you’ to the audience. DEFUND PBS.”

Yeah, Hitler's heart also went out to all those poor Jews..

JFC

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. So weird, this Nazi salute. From the actual President of a fascist admin. Odd. Odd looking, even.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Just saw a video of it, that's not just Nazi like, that is a textbook ENTHUSIASTIC NAZI SALUTE!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I mean, not textbook. It was sloppy and uncoordinated. Dipshits can't even fascism without looking awkward.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's deliberate for plausible deniability, but it's so obvious.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe but I also think he's an uncoordinated dip shit

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Odd looking is a kind way of looking at it.

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Elon I had well figured for a Nazi, certainly paints a message doing that at the POTUS podium, but CNN just calling it . . . odd? What the fuck is that non response about? I can only imagine that if they managed to open up labor camps CNN would call it 'slightly concerning'. Now more than ever we're on our own, the big club has give up all pretense of being unbiased and unmasked themselves for who they always wanted to be.

edit: And this is the NYTs enlightened take

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All of the "liberal media" (lol, that phrase was always silly and now it's beyond farcical) was already obeying in advance. This is just more of it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

everybody‘s ready to put on their new suits

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

The fourth estate is complicit and always has been.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

CNN got a right wing CEO a few years ago IIRC. Late 2020 or maybe 2021 if memory serves. IMO the coverage was almost immediately different.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

I'm confident that they are being forced to not compare the current situation to nazi Germany.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Dafuq is this unelected dipshit doing at the podium to begin with? That should be the first question to ask.

I mean we all know why but I refuse to pretend this should be the "new normal"

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

Unelected? What do you mean? He bought his top spot of a kleptocracy fair and square.

[–] [email protected] 212 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

“This is a man with Aspergers exuberantly throwing his heart to the crowd,” the journalist said, calling Musk “a friend to the Jews.”

Also, Asperger's is no longer a medical term and there is no indication that Elon has ever actually been evaluated. Autism is not an excuse to throw a Nazi salute, for fuck's sake!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

with that guy's history of making sock puppet accounts, this eric one is highly sus.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For lack of a better term I find it "interesting" that they're using the outdated term named for a Nazi collaborator

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

On Twitter, no less — a sycophant whose opinion is a net negative.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 129 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As social media exploded with condemnation of what some were calling a “Sieg Heil,” with some others applauding the world’s richest man’s gesture, there was also some speculation that Musk’s movement was more like that of an Imperial Roman general in the Gladiator mode.

Do people think the Nazis invented their salute? They took it from the Romans. To say it was actually a Roman salute is to also say it was a Nazi salute because they are basically one and the same.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They didn't, the association with Rome comes from this painting. The author didn't have anything to believe it was historically correct.

It is correct though that Italian fascists had a hard on on everything that was classical Rome-adjacent and they picked the salute from a French painting like a bunch of noobs.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Roman salute, also known as the Fascist salute

God I love Wikipedia

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

All the more reasons to donate, imo. Based af.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Interesting, so instead of them stealing the actual Roman salute, they stole what they thought the Roman salute was. Sure the Italian fascists used it too, but the Nazis compared what they wanted, a 1000 year Reich, to what Rome had created when they had a massive empire that lasted 500 years for the western empire and almost 1500 for the Eastern years if they include the West and almost 1000 by itself. So they didnt just take it from the Italian Fascists just cause, they did it because they thought it was Roman as well, and associated it with their desire to replicate the Romans.

Thanks for the info!

Edited the years for the Roman empire after being called out for being wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ackshually it's only 2000 years in the east (up until 1453) if you count the kingdom and republic (which would make it 1000 years in the west, up to the traditional date of 476) assuming the traditional ab urbe condita date of 753 BC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I said almost 2000 years. It lasted from, officially, 476 BCE to 1453 CE, that's 1929 years. Which is almost 2000 years, like I said.

When it comes to the West, the empire officially was made in 27 BCE with the first Emperor. I don't think the republic really counted because all historical articles I can find say it lasted 503 years, not 1000. From 27 BCE to 476 CE.

Also, 753 BCE isn't the Roman empire. It was the founding of Rome itself, meaning the city.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm just saying it only lasted 2000 years if you could the republic, in which case it lasted 1000 years in the west (traditionally until Augustulus was deposed in 476) not 500 years. I realize this has nothing to do with the topic at hand and I'm just being a pedant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ah I misread a bit of what you said. Thanks for the clarification.

Edit: Fixed the dates in the original post

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

No worries, I didn't explain myself very well. If you're in the US, take care today.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

So the nazi salute is the equivalent to the naruto run of their time.

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