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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 month ago (28 children)

This should be what digital ID looks like:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

mDMEZ26+ARYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAsUGMjbGNUyyz9PHsHKP4xj/tIfYIuHb4miPH 0iCPpu60K0VSUk9SOiBFYXJ0aC5leGUgaGFzIGNyYXNoZWQgPG5vQGVtYWlsLmV4 ZT6IcgQTFggAGgQLCQgHAhUIAhYBAhkBBYJnbr4BAp4BApsDAAoJEI6E3uMn31Z3 028BAM5o8ER0dqTsxFlZSgZOvvgFHGuy2eFgF3rULkGKl1KrAP9fdE7WwnYbBer/ AVmw5jr0P5m/XsEQQrSueuk/FLYBBbg4BGduvgESCisGAQQBl1UBBQEBB0BDR0Bv pf4jxbwp9rVowFTnL59NGqnnh6XyF/LjAoYDGgMBCAeIYQQYFggACQWCZ26+AQKb DAAKCRCOhN7jJ99Wd1dMAP45xmN03SodkWHi7PYOORqNXJUBdMzzfsRXdqE8ZXaW vAD+PqNqPcbwJYCOEAXkg7DlZ0SX3o9MViZLdzHFQ3TpUA8= =krDh -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

PGP Key Fingerprint: 857957d40f06cc816fd3d29a8e84dee327df5677

Should be good until quantum computers come around

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks, gonna need your phone number to verify that though.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sad PGP didn't become a popular way to log into websites. A challenge-response protocol could have even been built into web browsers. Big tech is reinventing that idea as Passkey, but with a very big tech flavor.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

I mean, passkeys are... sort of... PGP... 🤷‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Are Internet security and Internet privacy incompatible goals?

They are if the security is tied to knowing that an account is a person.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It is the same thing that happened with US Social Security Numbers, which were originally just tracking numbers for that one purpose that were coopted by capitalists and treated like something special.

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[–] [email protected] 307 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

To the same audience: quit selling my fucking phone number!

I ditched a phone number I had for 10+ years because it was leaked everywhere. Only a few short months after updating my number with the DMV and a handful of other government agencies I started receiving scam calls/messages again.

At some point we need to adopt some fucking privacy laws. This is absolutely bonkers—is no one else fed up??

Edit: I already know how to silence unknown callers. What I want is to not have the problem in the first place, ideally by 1) having companies not sell personal data to third parties and 2) being able to block spoofed (non-encrypted) caller ID.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm confused of how this keeps happening to people.

Like I use my phone on most sites that allow it and I've never had spam/scam calls really, but I've also explicitly unchecked the marketing boxes that appear on the signup so maybe that it.

The last instance that actually happened to me was with entering my university a few years ago for my BS degree. They 1000% sold my contact information as some part of the deans/honors list process. I reached out to them and stopped that so fast.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure a lot of scam calls use machines that call every possible phone number within an area code and see who answers. There is no way to avoid it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

this right here. I stopped getting scam calls years ago, I stopped answering and they just eventually stopped calling. If you don't interact with the call (interact being ignore it or mute it NOT reject it) and it just goes to voicemail, they seem to eventually stop

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lucky you. I've been letting calls from any number I don't recognize go to voicemail for years and nothing ever seems to change.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

lists sourced from drivers licenses and motor vehicle registration records are literally sold by some states.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

wisconsin literally has an opt-out/opt-in (based on your current status) box on vehicle registration renewal forms, for one.

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh everyone is fed up but we just elected a guy and government who is sure to make it all way way way worse.

He just helped put the nail in the coffin of the lie that crypto is for anything but scams, don't worry, it's gonna get real bad before it gets any better.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (6 children)

In South Africa, where I live, everyone is assigned an ID Number at Birth. You need an ID number, thumbprint scan AND proof of address to get issued a SIM card number due to a law introduced called RICA. It was meant to help fight crime. Worried that the government could listen in to calls or read their SMSs, the criminals just switched to WhatsApp, which also happened to become cheaper than SMSs and gained popularity in this time.

The cops never seemed to crack WhatsApp. The only drug busts that happen are when an open secret becomes laughably too open and when they harass every person arriving from South America at O.R. Tambo international airport just to catch the decoy mules carrying 12g of cocaine (total). Every dealer I ever organised with was over WhatsApp.

So now, woopsi, RICA stopped nothing and just became a liability. That treasure trove of fragile data made its way to scammers and spammers. A total net negative.

I'd encourage everyone else in other countries to apply major pushback to any government proposals in this direction.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did we? My government leader hasn't changed nor have we had an election lately

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