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Avatar is cursed for remakes like Fantastic Four (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For a fraction of the cost, Netflix could have instead just frame remastered the original show into 16:9 (not lazy cropping) and spent most of the effort into marketing it properly to gain a much wider audience.

But that would involve talent, critical thinking, and accepting that animation is a format not a genre. So naturally they just bought the rights so they could have their version of Star Wars/Harry Potter.

I could go on an entire rant about how even thinking making an animated show into a live action is a stupid idea, no matter how much money you throw at it, but I think I'll just wait for E;R's 2 hour youtube special instead lmao.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Has this ever been done? Taken an entire TV series animated in 4:3, and just adding content to the sides of the screen on every single frame?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

God I hope they never try that.

The best visual artists are extremely effective in their use of space. A 4:3 image expanded to 16:9 would just look weird, as the framing would simply not look right.

The alternative is some amount of expansion and cropping but it would still not look nearly as good as leaving the artwork in it's original aspect ratio.

A great example is Seinfeld which looks frickin terrible in 16:9:

https://consequence.net/2021/10/seinfeld-aspect-ratio-netflix/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

it can be done well. off the top of my head, a couple good examples are south park and marvelous misadventures of flapjack

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

I hate how Hollywood thinks live action is the highest form of visual media. Like you want remake avatar? Up the budget for animators, pay the shit out of your voice actors, and pay some writers to add some darker themes. Would be better than any of the live action have been.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are we talking about the real avatar stuff or the giant smurfs one?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Pixar's new animated movie about online profile pics that are sentient.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

...what the hell is that new movie I've never heard of? XD

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One thing I kept thinking about while watching this new show is how much you end up missing Toph. You still get interactions with Zuko, which I thought were fine, but something is still missing, and it's Toph.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Toph isn't in the first season of ATLA though

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

you end up missing her there too

[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This adaption, while not perfect due to nothing coming close to the show in terms of perfection, is not bad at all. It's shorter than the show so of course they had to make things flow quicker and things were cut out. But for a 7 episode take on season 1 I was impressed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Im only 4 episodes in so I can't give a full review but I think the problem is there were some choices that were made that ruined the heart of what was good about the show. Uncle iroh and saka are not funny at all. I just saw the 4th episode which has the caves of omashu and the singing hippies were hilarious but got mostly removed. It's like they think laughing would cheapen then shows seriousness or something. There is no love connection between aang and katara. And they added a bunch of storyline from season 2 for some reason.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not the best thing since sliced bread, but it was a decent TV show (in a vacuum.) Which was about the best we could hope for when they said they want to appeal to Avatar fans AND Game of Thrones fans.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I just don't get it. Who wants a live action avatar. The show holds up just fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

maybe they regard it as a separate revenue stream, so they can doubledip into what their demographics and marketing departments tell them are two completely independent audiences, cartoons vs live action. There's gotta be some reason because there's nobody who wants this, nobody who thinks it's a good idea, and nobody who is not filled with trepidation and a vague nausea at its release, who is also a fan of the original show.

I also don't believe it can be true that there is a subset of people who are too manly/serious and "absolutely will not watch cartoons" that overlaps with "would watch this obvious adaptation of a children's show".

But yeah, they don't think that way I guess. Anyway I'm just glad it's not another butcher job. Gonna give it a while before I watch it, I want them to understand this is nobody's priority. (An Earthbender Avatar, however.... that's day 1 binge territory)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

"Did Jet just die?!*

"It's not clear."

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

Haha as a German I am lucky and can just switch to the German synchro. The voice acting is directly 300% better... Still that leaves the bad visual acting... As a bonus I get the old voices though. Somehow they where able to get the original voice actors for katara, sokka, suko, azula, Ty lee, Zhao, jet (I think), and suki

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