I downloaded honey forever ago before all the stuff and I don't think it got me a deal a single time.
this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2025
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If you don't pay for your product, you are the product
Nope. Amazon Prime, YouTube Premium, Netflix, etc. will all still track your behaviour, collect your data to be used against you, and still make you the product.
Corporate greed and enshittification have ruined everything.
True
Wrong. You are the product anyway, believing the majority of companies would not monetarize you because they made you pay first is very naive.
Nah, there are good open source projects that are free because people think it's important for them to be. Many of us probably also contributed to some, helping good things to be free.
Nova Launcher
Woah, I'm still using this. Did I miss something here?
TLDR; yes
They got sold, and last I heard there was 1 Dev left to "maintaining it".
Real shame, I switched to Neo Launcher (on F-droid/Izzy repo, not the play store). Although the last update was 3 years ago, new version "any time now", may have to find something new again.
Lawnchair is popular too
Would be interested as well. /e/OS doesn't report any tracker activity to me from it.
Honey
Honey pot
BetterHelp
BetterHelpYourself
Pikachu Face
Surprised Pikachu Face
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God I'm down so bad for silco
Get the fuck outta my head
Is there anything more undoing than a morally grey older twink
Morally grey is an interesting way to put it. He's a murderous sociopath and drug kingpin.
Sure but he murdered and built a drug empire with the purpose of succeeding from an oligarchic police state.
My interpretation of silco's character arc is that by the end of season one he has become what vander was at the start of season one in the flashbacks. He'd fought and he knows he can win, to get all that he's ever wanted but in doing so he will lose the people he loves. When he sits at vanders statue lamenting his death and the decision he has to make he finally understands vander and on his deathbed he admits to jinx that he would've chosen to become vander. Perhaps if granted the time that vander was he'd become just like the way we see vander. The season 2 alternate timeline shows that silco is capable of being the man that vander was.
What I find more interesting is that if we accept that silco could've become like vander maybe before the events of the story vander was more like silco. His nickname was "hound of the underworld" hardly the name of someone "good." Moreover one of the things silco is most criticised for is killing vander, but vander attempted to kill silco long before he did and silco also expressed guilt for his actions as vander did.
Silco and vander are the same they're just out of sync, vander a decade or so ahead of silco. Vander's past catches up to him in the form of silco and silco's future reveals itself in the form of vander. Both men are tired of the material conditions they are subjected to and both are willing to kill for change. When it came to losing the people they cared most about, to losing their daughters, both men backed down.
All of the characters in arcane are morally grey. You can disagree with what they do, but everyone is motivated by their love for the people they care about.
But, but, all the youtubers tell me VPN are for privacy 😮
(/s)
This is especially damning for BetterHelp, as they get all your health related data and such data is especially worth protecting. Fuck BetterHelp.
Pretty sure in just about any developed country BetterHelp is breaking the law by selling at least some of that data. How they haven't been shut down is a testament to man's unending greed.
Free != Libre
I thought they meant Free Software, not free software and I'll like but you can just fork it.
Firefox? Aren't they just getting anonymous telemetry and setting the default search engine to Google? I know they changed their TOS in the past but how are they selling data?
Yeah but you can harden firefox
It's much better to just use a hardened fork like LibreWolf or Mullvad Browser from the start.
I think this git diff speaks for itself.
It isn't a beauty but no it does not speak for itself.
Mozilla purchased an advertisement company and a fair chunk of the board of Mozilla are ex google.
so they're not selling the data, they're using it internally.
Yes, they hold the user data (supposedly its all generic, non-personally identifiable, and they dont build user profiles) and then have advertisers pay them to push targeted ads based on that data. This is how the tech companies make boatloads of cash - force advertisers to pay for a subscription to use the user data for targeted ads.
yeah except it still doesn't seem to work for mozilla...
Just like google and Facebook.
are firefox forks better for now?
No money no honey.
honey
Lmao what in the fuck was this even if not a machine designed explicitly to datamine?
Yeah even before the fucking scandals what the hell did you think Honey was getting out of the deal? You think it was made by some coupon-clipping hobbyist grandma’s altruistically crafting a bespoke Chrome extension?
“Oh back in my day the ECMAScript standard didn’t even have closures, pass my reading glasses Agnes”
If you’re getting something for free, you aren’t the consumer, you are the product. Open Source projects (free as in speech) need some way to pay for the beer (not free). Enshittification is accelerating the conversion of services that have some form of free tier into more aggressively finding ways to monetize those users. Even services you pay for are selling your data, to make sure they can get maximum juice.
Not true!
There's also stealing. That's free.
Linux is free, am I the product?
No, Linux wants your most precious resource. Your time!
In exchange you get to actually own your software and get to control your operating system. I would argue that this is priceless.
Yes.
What we, the product, should be doing is selling our engagement to companies that need new and unique data to train AI models.
The data we create (including this interaction) is more valuable than the 'service' Facebook provides.
Maybe that's the way Lemmy will eventually enshittify, by paying people to join it and interact so that the data can be used for AI training... who needs advertisers? (Though, try to avoid the urge to tell them to go fuck themselves)
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