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AT&T pulls 5G home Internet from New York to protest state affordability law.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

I don’t know if this AT&T service covered all of NY but for sake of my point I’m going to assume it covers most to all of NY. Obviously, not everyone would subscribe to AT&T either. I’m generalizing a bit to make a point.

There are approx 8.5 mil households in NY and 1.7 mil qualified for the previous affordable broadband law (couldn’t find an exact number for this current law).

If they charge $60 for the service that’s a potential total of $512,000,000 for NY.

If 1.7 mil get broadband for $15 that’s $25,500,000.

So AT&T is willing to give up a potential $487,000,00 from all other NY customers just to spite low income families.

Note: this is income before any AT&T expenses, just to be clear and fair.

Edit I was clear or the article wasn’t clear.

  1. ATT is pulling 5G service from existing customers. They were given a 45 day window to find a new provider. I’m not talking about new construction.

  2. they are not obligated to provide fiber at $15. Only broadband. I know there are still expenses with that, but there is much more broadband already available than fiber.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't see what the issue is here. They don't want to be treated as a utility, but if they stay in New York, they'll be regulated as a utility. They've dealt with it as a phone provider, and choose not to engage in the regulatory environment being put in front of them. It's a totally reasonable choice for a business to walk away from a market if the cost of doing business would exceed the profits made.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apple could have done the same thing with the EU. Either don’t put USB-C on their phones, or cease doing business in those countries.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sounds like it's time for a municipal broadband solution. If AT&T doesn't want the business, fine. Let's not force them to take our money.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Chattanooga, Tennessee did something like that, but when they tried to expand outside of the city they were shut down

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

They pulled their wireless home Internet service which mostly targets rural areas where companies like AT&T never laid fiber and have started abandoning their copper networks. It's a lot harder for smaller rural communities to do municipal broadband because the costs are much higher per household. Not impossible, but more of an uphill battle. In some GOP states it's even outlawed. In NY hopefully people can get grants for them.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, all those lines are leased to at&t by the state right? I feel like they could just revoke them and give everyone free Internet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Looks like a monopoly to me. That’s practically admitting that they believe consumers don’t have sufficient choice, and they’d rather not compete.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago

These predatory companies make such a huff, like an abusive partner storming out while shouting "you don't know what you're missing!"

We do know, and we'll be fine. 👋

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

Interesting, so it seems because ATT doesn't have fiber already setup in NY that they're pulling out. If more states did this, they probably wouldn't be able to handle pulling out, financially.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 months ago

I remember when the US government paid AT&T to get fiber to the curb of American homes.

Then AT&T didn't. And then the US sued AT&T to get the money back and into the hands of US Americans. Wireless internet is an end-around having to fulfill those promises of a wide bandwidth future. And here is the evidence for that.

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