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Summary

House Speaker Mike Johnson stated that federal aid for California's devastating Los Angeles wildfires, which have killed at least 24 and displaced nearly 200,000 people, should come with conditions, citing alleged failures by state and local leaders.

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Other Republican leaders, including Senators John Barrasso and Ron Johnson, expressed similar views, blaming liberal policies for exacerbating the fires.

Critics denounce these positions as cruel, given the scale of destruction, with over 12,000 buildings lost and massive evacuation orders in effect.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

The entire qon thing of "California bad" is just so very fucking stupid. It's clear they are very jealous of California, which is arguably our most important state.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Crassus got Carrhae'd.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 46 points 2 weeks ago

California should be like: "We will not negotiate with terrorists."

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Doing something so cartoonishly evil to so many people who so recently lost everything?

I don't know, sounds like a safety issue for him. Hopefully his preservation instincts kick in.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess California and other blue states should also tie federal taxes to things of their own. Maybe even leave the union altogether, alongside with other states.

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[–] WeUnite@lemm.ee 49 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Democrats: Please remember this moment and when it comes time to the elections constantly repeat this on loop as much as possible. We must never forget this.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree, but if Trump putting kids in cages and kidnapping them from their families didn't sway enough voters the first time around, this certainly won't either.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's important to understand how a lot of red Americans see California. It's similar to how a lot of the world sees America. They were once enamored by it thanks to it's cultural dominance but nowadays they're disillusioned and sick of its cultural dominance. Even I as a leftist moving west in a few months am sick and tired of orange county deciding what the Republican position is resulting in my gerrymandered legislature attacking locally popular things like Marijuana (say what you will about hillbillies, they do not like being busted for their homemade intoxicants and many grow pot).

So yeah in short, the cruelty is the point and I promise, having once lived in his district, Jim Jordan would gain votes for it

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[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 weeks ago

Lol you're insane if you think this changes anything for anyone anywhere

I admire your positivity.

Just a few months ago democrats were protesting outside their own rallies.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 34 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats: we already know they're pieces of shit

Republicans: Fox news tells me California deserves it.

We live in the post truth world, what you believe to be true is predetermined and nothing means anything that comes from outside your chosen propaganda outlet. :(

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 2 weeks ago

I honestly really admire your optimism.

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[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

What a fucking piece of shit you are, Johnson.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago

The guy who represents one of the welfare states that takes a lot more money from the union than they give back... is doing this to one of the big blue states that gives to the union a lot more than they get back?

Fucking pathetic, greedy, immoral little shit. I hope his home gets wiped out in the next natural disaster that hits good state.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 127 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Is this how you Make America Great Again? Is this America First?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

More like Make The Confederacy Great Again.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

This is "Republican America First".

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Mexico is helping while "America first" government officials are deliberately withholding aid. Absolute demons.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes. When you consider that means making the left suffer. This is exactly what MAGA wants.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Except there's more Republicans living in California than the total population of most red states.

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[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

They will eat their own shit to spite us.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is their version of it.... Make white America great again

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Homer Simpson: "White, cishet, christian-fundamentalist America".

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you are in california and have nothing to lose remember that you know where mike johnson goes to work everyday.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You know if I lived in California right now I'd be wondering real hard why even be a part of the union? California contributes more than it receives, has vastly different politics than the rest of the country, has a powerhouse economy.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The big problems would be all the US military bases and the power grid but, yeah I'm in.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

We also know where he lives. All three addresses.

He's not holding aid hostage, he's holding people's lives hostage.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So the next time Louisiana gets fucked like they did during Katrina we all just tell them to suck it?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The fucked up thing is that the blatant double standard ensures that Republicans will blame the left no matter what. You cannot teach them through cause and effect, because their propaganda is too fucking powerful and their brains are too rotted.

If the Democrats did something even slightly similar to this, like 10% the severity, they would be demonized and it would be taken by conservatives as an act of unprovoked aggression. It does not matter what the context is, or if it was a direct response to Republicans doing the same fucking thing. It just does not matter.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's pretty much what GWB did though

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Incompetence and malice can get the same results I suppose.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I thought it was Canada’s fault for not turning on their faucet?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

These are the people they always want to apply the 'higher ground' and 'congressional decorum' to. Fuck em.

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