Ask yourself what a cow ever did to you and compare the two
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If people have good tattoos, the skin the tattoo is on should be preserved at death and framed. For family to enjoy.
Didn't expect to meet Fukushi Masaichi here.
Humans. They can consent.
We already kill cows to eat them. Wearing their skin is just using more of their material.
Yeah exactly. People dont realize that leather is a byproduct of the meat industry. Most of the cost is in tanning and preparing it.
So trust me, there is no shortage of skin to make leather
Except it's rarely the same cows
Assuming it's involuntary either way, cows.
There's no shortage of alternatives, though.
From the pov of a human or a cow?
Cow leather is more moral in my pov
Or is it about sourcing it from them after their natural death?
Even then cow leather seems more moral
What do you base that on? A cow canβt consent to this.
Seems a little fucked up.
But which is more fucked up?
I'd donate my body to a Tanner. Cows can't make this choice in a we can understand at least.
Douglas Adams morally safe meat. Cows breed to be smart enough to agree to be food. To the point they will just pop off and off them selves .... But don't worry it will be in a very humane way.... And don't forget to try my rump it's very juicy...
This is from the restaurant at the end of the universe btw
"How about a salad?"
"Oh, I know a few vegetables who'd object to that, Sir!"
It's ethical i would say, since humans are an invasive species
Jokes like this make me uncomfortable :( there's legit eco fash positions like this. Invasive species rhetoric is bad applied to all species imho, because killing children for some sort of inherited sin seems unreasonable to me.
I appreciate you calling out this kind of stuff. It seems like in this instance, OP was just joking, but I'm deeply nervous at how many people are genuinely believing and propagating eco-fascist rhetoric nowadays.
You have to be equal opportunity about it. If you start saying this kind but not that kind then it's just racism ingrouo outgroup bullshit.
i forgot people actually think like this π
We do have to ask if Malthusians are really people...
Yes
Gotta do something with dead raiders.
Vegan leather. Not made out of vegans. Actually made out of polyurethane: oil: check, microplastics: check, disposable with a short usable life: check!
Leather also emits microplastic, it's just not a monomer we call "plastic" but its going in your balls too!
Well in all seriousness, humans can consent and cows can't (or if they can, they have no unambiguous way to communicate this consent to humans), so human leather is more ethical.
And when it's the only way to keep their family from starving, for example, people will consent in droves, securing supply.
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