Technology

Every single person who wears glasses would drop them in a second if any other viable and sustainable alternative shows up.

Not really, glasses have long since become a fashion statement and many people wear some without needing them.

I need glasses to correct my heterotropia and even if there was some magic cure for that I'm not sure if I'd stop wearing my glasses to be honest; I kinda like them and how they make me look.

3D cinema failed financially because people didn't want to have to use simple basic glasses.

I have not heard anyone complain about the glasses, but tons of ppl complaining about the movies and tech quality.

Also btw currently there's currently a 127g VR glasses available for PC, and Pimax is coming out with a set that's some 180 I think (Dream Air) but also has eyetracking and whatnot.

But yeah mostly I do agree. I had the original vive and the annoyance of what were basically ski goggles that weighed a ton without any proper straps even was a bit much. It was cool though, especially once Ingot got the pro strap which had the more helmet config with the wheel at the back.

I'm thinking of perhaps seeing if I'll get a set later this year to see how far it's come in 8 years.

I don’t see how this is a failure, because I don’t see this as a legitimate push for adoption.

This was a device that cost as much as a used car, with no real pre release applications, and virtually no preemptive dev kits. The only thing I can see that as is an attempt to mass test a new device type with early adopters.

there is a big difference between those 3d effects and actual vr, where with one you only get the primitive depth idea your brain produces versus actually being able to inspect something from any angle

it also enables very different inputs, like with beat saber or rumble for example, or recently I was imagining a game where you can point at something to grapple on to it while using the other controller to shoot at enemies at the same time which wouldn't really work without vr

unfortunately for me i'm someone who is interested in computer graphics and the difference in immersion from vr is largely offset by the graphics being worse, the screens looking worse and blurrier, the lack of an actual focus depth (I forget what the technical term for this is but most headsets have everything set so your eyes always focus at what would normally by 1-2 meters away), and the new perspective exposing all of the little graphics tricks that don't really work when you can see them in this level of detail

(i'd say an ideal headset would probably have 6x more pixels than my reverb g2 (/3.5 px because it would also have foveated rendering) and be able to render visuals similar to cyberpunk at 'rt ultra', with apparently already gets 90 fps on a 4090 at 1080p, so that would be 7.5x more pixels, you would need a card 7.5x faster than a 4090, so assuming Moore's Law stays accurate that should be around 12 years from now)

so why hasn't vr taken off? I would say (in no particular order) it's because it hurts your eyes, makes you dizzy, is uncomfortable, its expensive, it doesn't have many apps, the controls feel janky for actual ui stuff where a mouse and keyboard is just easier, people are lazy and it requires some physical activity, people don't have all that much free time

don't take this the wrong way, I generally love VR and have probably 150-200 hrs in it over two years (a lot less than a some people, if you look at the reviews for vr chat for example its not uncommon for people to have >5k hours)

The conclusion I draw from this is that people don't like having to wear special glasses or a device strapped to their face, even if it is relatively cheap to produce.

Bingo. I often used the 3D on the 3DS, but that's because I didn't have to do anything other than not move the device around too much. So it worked for gaming at home, not on/in a vehicle.

Although 3D is nice, it simply doesn’t seem to be sufficient incentive to put up with the isolation from other people and the surrounding environment that the viewing equipment invariably requires.

This is spot on IMO, the technologies are now good enough at producing realistic 3D experiences even interactive, that if there were no inconveniences I'd bet it would be about as popular as color was when that became reality.

Fundamentally the only unique attribute for these goggles is 3D

VR is way more than just "being 3D." The way you interact with things is a bigger influence on what makes it than the visuals. You're not just having things pop out at you off a 2D plane; you're in the thing with them, and you can "touch" them or do pretty much anything you can do with your actual body.

You're right people don't necessarily want to wear a heavy thing on their face for this, though. Especially when there isn't a lot in the way of experiences that actually offer everything the space is capable of and your hardware is almost four-fucking-thousand dollars.

Wait... Does the Vision actively block porn sites or does it not have a web browser?