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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Absolutely convinced conservatives would attack Mr Rogers and Jesus if they were alive and real, respectively.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

jesus was a real guy lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jesus was a historical figure. Abraham and co not so much

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There isn't a lot of published academic work on this. It's an assumption by primarily Christian historians who have never seriously questioned it and there is starting to be some push-back on this idea. Now that academic works are being published on this there appears to be plenty of evidence that he was not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I could definitely see the academic position changing. Last I looked into this topic was a long time ago. I can't find the video but I also watched an interview with some historian and she was saying that Abraham was absolutely not a real person but Jesus was. So yeah things could definitely change and the Christian historians I would never take seriously. I mean the bias is too obvious.

But the whole topic of historical accuracy (for lack of a better word) is a bit of a mind fuck. Trying to figure what happened thousands of years ago is such a monumentally difficult task. I mean we don't even know and will never what's happening in parts of the world at this very moment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

There are Christian historians you can absolutely take seriously. Bert Ehrman approaches this stuff with with real academic vigor. He is one of the very few who have published actual papers in respected journals on the historicity of Jesus. So he is the go-to guy for "Jesus was real". I'm just saying that the assumption was "Jesus was real" in the west for hundreds of years without any real study on the matter. Now we have a few people pushing back on the idea. Dr Richard Carrier is the most prominent and one of the only people who has published actual papers in journals on the un-historicity of Jesus. There are a few others. The number of people who have actually published on this topic you can count on your fingers. If there were to be a real debate on the subject the two dudes involved would almost certainly be these two.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They already did that with Mr Rogers decades ago

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Fred Rogers was the host of a beloved American children's program, Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

I believe reruns still get aired on a lot of public television stations, but it's very much the blueprint for later personality driven children's content, like Ms. Rachel

https://youtu.be/p1xvw8v5py8

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was it him or Bob Ross who was a sniper in Vietnam?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Bob Ross was the one who was in the military.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

And Jesus, also decades ago