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I have a hard time generally trusting non-vegan leftists to authentically oppose oppression because I've gotten mask-off hatred from them simply because their "Veganism is just privileged and white!" card can't work against me.
The reason why non-vegan leftists love their arguments is that they all revolve around trying to paint veganism as reactionary. They feel as if they can reconcile the glaring inconsistency behind claiming to support justice while not being vegan if they argue their out-there talking points about how veganism is actually the bigoted, anti-justice tendency. In other words, they want to feel more "woke" by opposing veganism rather than less.
Non-vegan leftists would rather stop pretending to oppose human oppression so that their take on it clearly aligns with their support for animal oppression rather than stop supporting animal oppression for their take on it to align with their alleged opposition to human oppression. That's what I've come to notice. They'd rather roll with the shameful and hateful approach to being consistent than the one that is actually just and truly anti-oppression.
I've written about this before, so I may be working a little copy-and-paste magic here, but I find that this explains well why veganism intimidates non-vegan leftists who build their entire outlook on performativity and vibes:
[CW: A lot] I have had non-vegan leftists literally resort to...
calling me slurs, sending out death threats, saying that I deserved my SA, and knowingly misgendering me just because I held an unapologetic vegan stance that didn't sit well with their faux wokeness.Your skepticism is wholly justified.
I myself do not trust non-vegans to actually respect me as a person. I don't trust non-vegans to respect consent. I don't trust non-vegans to not objectify me and not be bigoted or discriminatory against me. This is especially why this shit came off as incredibly tone deaf to me.
The only grace I can offer here is that not all non-vegans are necessarily anti-vegans at heart. Some non-vegans could easily go vegan with the proper information needed to remove the human supremacist conditioning. I call these people "pre-vegans," but I find that most non-vegan leftists (or non-vegans in general) I've interacted with are not in this category.