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Rules

No plant-based diet bullshit or promotion of plant-based capitalism. Veganism isn't about you, it's about historical materialist anti-speciesism, anti-racist animalization, and animal liberation. Ethical vegans only.
No omni apologists or carnists. Babystepping is for libs, and we're not here to pat you on the back. Good faith questions and debate about how to fight for animal liberation are allowed.
No advocating violence to any species for any reason. If you think this is negotiable GTFO. This includes but is not limited to animal testing, slaughter, and mass euthanasia. Anything that promotes speciesism or the commodification of animals will be removed.
Use Content Warnings and NSFW tags for triggering content. Especially if a comrade requests it.
Questions about diet belong in c/food. It's also a great place to share recipes.
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Resources

Animal liberation and direct action

Animal Liberation Press (ALF)
Wiki on Ethical Veganism
Wiki on the Animal Liberation Front
Wiki on Total Liberation
Different approaches to AL direct action
Earth First! manual and tactics
Support prisoners of conscience: Vegan Prisoners Support Group (UK)
If someone tells you to put some paint on your hands, tag some buildings and then go turn yourself into the police - your "rebellion" is a fucking op

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I am extremely sceptical of the intentions of non-vegan leftists (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Veganism seems to fall so obviously out of leftist beliefs, there are definitely other ways to get there but even if you are a speciest animal ag is so wantonly destructive, intensive, exploitative, colonial, and abusive to human workers not being against it is a big question mark.

I want to be charitable to people, I understand that deprogramming yourself can take a while, but when people have been aware that veganism is an option for months/years without taking any material steps... I dunno, are you just a treatlerite mad you don't have enough treats?

Has anyone had any real progress making other leftists they meet vegan? I've only managed to get three people to permanently adopt the philosophy in my life. None of those were particularly leftist, just justice sympathetic.

edit: I actually want to hear from other vegans in the vegan comm. Shocking I know.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm a vegan and will be until I die or I can't do it anymore for whatever reason, but it's the other way around for me. I don't trust other vegans until they say they're leftist/communist cause they're more likely way too into woo shit, bougie liberals that like the marketing term or health benefits, or right wingers/libertarians that stumbled into a good point/like the health benefits.

I also don't think it takes being a communist necessarily to see suffering in animals and want to stop it in whatever way one can. It's just if either non-vegan communists or non-leftist vegans honestly and critically looked at their beliefs, it would be hard to escape the correct conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Oh for sure haha, I mean there's a reason I am not hanging out at my city's vegan social gathering. A fuckload of "maybe if I just buy the greenwashed product and switch off my brain everything will be fine".

I don't think being vegan means you have your head screwed on, and I don't think I said that (if I did, point it out please so I can fix my phrasing). Particularly with how a half arsed capitalist veganism is promoted or the weird fashy roots of food purity it's anyone's bet as to how the person arrived at it.

I think veganism ought to fall out of leftism, like oppressing people for gain is bad because we are all deserve to flourish since we all feel. Being attractive or educated, or smart, or lucky, or born to some family doesn't make your pain and joy matter more. That's a thought that seems like it should readily lead to sympathy for other animals.

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