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Veganism seems to fall so obviously out of leftist beliefs, there are definitely other ways to get there but even if you are a speciest animal ag is so wantonly destructive, intensive, exploitative, colonial, and abusive to human workers not being against it is a big question mark.

I want to be charitable to people, I understand that deprogramming yourself can take a while, but when people have been aware that veganism is an option for months/years without taking any material steps... I dunno, are you just a treatlerite mad you don't have enough treats?

Has anyone had any real progress making other leftists they meet vegan? I've only managed to get three people to permanently adopt the philosophy in my life. None of those were particularly leftist, just justice sympathetic.

edit: I actually want to hear from other vegans in the vegan comm. Shocking I know.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Oh for sure haha, I mean there's a reason I am not hanging out at my city's vegan social gathering. A fuckload of "maybe if I just buy the greenwashed product and switch off my brain everything will be fine".

I don't think being vegan means you have your head screwed on, and I don't think I said that (if I did, point it out please so I can fix my phrasing). Particularly with how a half arsed capitalist veganism is promoted or the weird fashy roots of food purity it's anyone's bet as to how the person arrived at it.

I think veganism ought to fall out of leftism, like oppressing people for gain is bad because we are all deserve to flourish since we all feel. Being attractive or educated, or smart, or lucky, or born to some family doesn't make your pain and joy matter more. That's a thought that seems like it should readily lead to sympathy for other animals.