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This shit is much wider than just hexbear. The lemmy creator himself is leftist and has pro communist essays on his github
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/dessalines_marxism_study_plan.md
This is atrocious.
And yet he created this platform for us to use...I don't agree with a lot of his politics, but I respect what he is doing (until the day someone provably reports some sneaky backdoor, doxxing IPs, serving private data to hostile states, undermining dissenting instances or other things like that)
Not sure you know where you are but just bc we ain't tankies doesn't mean we bootlick capital over here lmao
What's atrocious about Leftist politics? I'm a Leftist and proud of it. I want free healthcare for everyone with guaranteed shelter and access to sustenance. How atrocious of me.
It’s more their support of authoritarian states and policies than the communist thought that I take issue with, personally.
Communism itself is broken as fuck and produces authoritarian governments at best, and totalitarian regimes at worst. All these states are universally impoverished and abusing basic human rights
No it isn't.
As opposed to capitalist states, which are wealthy because a small handful of powerful people have extracted the value from everyone else, by abusing human rights.
capaitalism is a strawman invented by Marix. What those states are is liberal (not to be confused with what the media calls liberal today), which means they support freedoms "life, liberty, and property". Capaitalism is not the defining feature it is a derived feature from freedom of property. Liberal states are capitalist in pursuit of their freedom journey. Communism only allows freedoms if they don't conflict with their communism journey.
Despite your cliams, the average person in "capitalism" is much richer than in every other system.
How are anarchists and anarco-communist restrictive in freedoms?
Capitalism was initially called economic liberalism. They're the same thing.Yes it is not the liberalism in popular Western use today. But its not a straw man.
Ah yes the wonderful "freedom of property", which means "the freedom of megacorps to buy up all the property, and overcharge you exorbitant fees to rent because you have no other option than to be homeless".
The capitalism endgame is that megacorps own everything, regular working class people own nothing.
Only the megacorps are actually free.
Blah blah, bad megacorps this, bad megacorps that... You know that cases of large corporations abusing power are exceptions and not indicative to the majority of the economy?
Did we just find the Blackrock CEO secret Lemmy account?
Actually I'm on fedia - which uses MBin
Dismissive of argument because he has no valid counterargument. Thanks for being such a textbook example of bad faith arguments online.
I once tried explaining to these people that capitalism is natural result of any framework that strongly supports private property and freedom, but it only triggers them into emotional or aggressive responses
It only supports freedom from the government. It then leaves a power vacuum which is filled by the wealthiest individuals who exert their authority on everyone through the many companies they own or lobbyists they pay without any real checks on their power. Since it is much easier to gain more wealth if you already have some, that means eventually all wealth will end up accumulated in the hands of very few. At that point it will be indistinguishable from fueldalism.
I think communism could only ever work in a country that has a robust democracy rather than the dictatorships that tried it in the past. The problem is communism will usually devolve into dictatorship because whoever is in power will be able to use the communist system to never lose an election.
Communism will also never work because it has to compete with capitalism. Capitalism will always win because it doesn't have the extra burden of taking care of the poor. Communism would never last unless every country in the world abandoned capitalism.
Pure communism or capitalism both have issues. The ideal system is somewhere in between. A flexible system that can be easily adjusted to match circumstances would be best. Democracy still needs to be held up as the most important aspect no matter the economic system.
It's a fact that private ownership exists under Communism.
Except it doesn't - communism postulates abolishment of money and private property
Not entirely true. I’ll use the USSR as an example.
Except for the states that voted out the socialist systems in favor of the capitalism and everyone ther now lives in wealth and prosperity unheard during socialism.
If you had to live in socialist or communist state you'd crawl back to the capitalism within months.
Honestly the actual socialist states, the Scandinavian ones. Tend to be some of the happiest and highest rated on the planet. Consistently even. Generally the authoritarian ones regardless of where they pretend to be economically are often the worst.
Dude, Scandinavian states aren't socialist, they run on a capitalist economies. Who told you that they are? Where's the source of these claims?
Technically we are both correct. But you're still wrong. Not surprising since you cannot actually accurately describe what capitalism, socialism, or communism is.
That article describes basically every EU country. (High taxation, strong employee protections, benefits financed from taxes) You're conflating socialism with welfare state.
Real socialism existed between 1945 and 1989 in central EU and it was awful system, thankfully it's forever gone.
Yep. Exactly what I predicted. You can't actually describe what any of them are. Simply repeating propaganda.
Enlighten me then
i love ignoring the history of western colonialism to defend the 'free market'!
its actually because We Liberals™ defend freedom that we are so rich!
You're confusing ML's who are authoritarian with non authoritarian ideology like marxists (minus the lenninism) or other forms of communism. Arguably ML's are only communist in name. Similar to how the NDSP for the Nazi party was not a socialist party - they just picked up a false flag because it was popular. And that's often the problem with western teaching on socialism and communism - there is a massive conflation with what it actually is and what malefactors (e.g. Lennin/Stalin or so many other dictatorship examples) have projected on to it.
High five. 🖐️ I'm glad to not be the one posting this again constantly. Between the two authoritarian groups propaganda. It's basically impossible to have any sort of discussion about it sadly.
Yeah I feel like a broken record myself. It's tough because there's such a huge population of people who have been taught 'communism = evil dictatorship' and not think critically about any of it, read any of the literature, study the history of it, etc.
I could go on but I am sure you know already.
Yes the whole noun versus adjective thing. Communists aren't communist. And their faces go blank as a dial tone plays in their head.