It's funny to me because it reads like a satire of non-vegans, but this is literally how most of them are.
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If you’re still trying to justify any use of animals as "symbiosis" or "mutual benefit," you’re missing the foundational point of veganism: It’s not about reforming exploitation—it’s about abolishing the idea that animals exist for human ends.
Your "Tony Stark cloning" hypotheticals and guard dog mental gymnastics don’t change that. Veganism rejects the entire framework of animals as resources, whether under capitalism, your backyard, or a sci-fi lab.
You’re still missing the core issue. The tarantula egg and dog meat examples aren’t about personal comfort—they’re about exposing the arbitrary, culturally conditioned mindset that designates some animals as "resources" and others as "off-limits," and that is the very issue veganism seeks to address, but you are dismissing it on the basis of vibes and viewing it as a meaningless cliché rather than understanding the intention of these examples in this context.
Veganism isn’t debating which exploitation is "okay"—it rejects the entire premise that animals are ours to use. If you can’t engage with that principle, this conversation is pointless. Let me know if you ever want to discuss abolitionism instead of hypothetical loopholes for "happy slavery."